Re: [MLUG] the death of SMTP+POP+IMAP

["Jonathan King" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

"Webmail hell?"

All I can say is: you are so lucky that you evidently don't have to
deal with Outlook and .pst files or Exchange. You probably only deal
with people who only mildly misuse email. You have more control over
your own email than at least 98 percent of all email users. You (and
most of the rest of us on this list) are truly email elitsts in the
best sense of the term. But we can do what almost nobody else can or
would. Almost by definition, what you do with email cannot scale to
the population. To be brutally honest, any solution that does not
invollve storing everything on a big central server with the
impossibility of user archiving is guaranteed to fail.

Gmail (to use one concrete example) is not perfect. But you must
believe me when I say that if we made every other email system in the
world go away tomorrow but could set everybody up with their life
email archive on Gmail, net happiness would go up tremendously.

jking


On 5/6/08, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> Comments?...
>
> http://deflexion.com/2007/07/dying-thunderbird
>
> That's by Nancy McGough.  She writes a lot of technical stuff about email,
> Pine, Procmail, stuff like that.
>
> So what will the future bring?  Are we all headed to webmail hell?  I like
> keeping my email on my server and storing it all in millions of folders.
> And I like filtering incoming messages with procmail to put mail in lots
> of different inboxes.  Gmail has some nice ideas but it isn't better now
> than what I can do with Procmail, etc.
>
> Gmail uses "conversations" and labels and a Db approach to storage and
> retrieval of messages.  Maybe the Db and use of labels is the way to go,
> and I should aspire to that, but the "conversations" are only good half of
> the time.  It's almost like forcing every message from a thread to be
> wrapped into a single message.  The threading is cool but it causes
> problems for searches, when sorting messages by date, etc.
>
> Mike
>
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