Re: [MLUG] hard X crash that kills keyboard

[George Robb <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Nope vanilla install of FC4.  It is a Dell PowerEdge 1800 but, no  
open manage or extras at all.

George


On May 1, 2007, at 12:50 PM, shawn parker wrote:

> have you installed any 3rd party software or utilities on the box? we
> ran into a similar, although not as disastrous, issue after installing
> dell's open-manage on one of our servers.
>
> a lib got corrupted some how (had 0 bytes for size and appended some
> weird string on the end of the file name). every time we rebooted the
> server if open-manage daemons were running, x would crash or some
> software would fail to work; like firefox.
>
> we never officially found a reason for the problems, but i removed the
> bad lib and replaced it with a good copy and everything is fine now.
>
>
> On 5/1/07, George Robb <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> > Normal would be the grey background and the X cursor.  I'd be happy
> > with that.  When I try X -config /myconfig it causes keyboard locks
> > and the only way to kill it is to ssh in.
> >
> > Thanks for the input!
> >
> > George
> >
> > On May 1, 2007, at 12:14 PM, McIntosh Jason wrote:
> >
> > > Well, the cheese I think is normal, isn't it?  i.e. no background
> > > so it displays that?  Try starting xterm along with it, see if that
> > > gets you something.  Does that X -config /myconfig cause the CPU
> > > and keyboard failure, where you can't kill X?  If not, it does
> > > sound like something with the default X startup is at issue.
> > > Otherwise, I'd guess DRI or some other thing loading with X.
> > > Jason
> > >
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> > >
> > >
> > > On May 1, 2007, at 12:07 PM, George Robb wrote:
> > >
> > >> Any attempt to run X causes cheese.   e.g.  X -config /root/
> > >> xorg.conf.new  Which should just bring up a grey screen with an X
> > >> cursor.
> > >>
> > >> Just another odd one to chalk up as "hmmm"
> > >>
> > >> George
> > >>
> > >> On May 1, 2007, at 10:36 AM, McIntosh Jason wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> Just another random thought... is X starting something perhaps
> > >>> that's taking the CPU time?  i.e. gconf/bonobo or similar?  You
> > >>> could try starting a super super simple system of X, i.e. run X
> > >>> with just an xterm.
> > >>> Jason
> > >>>
> > >>> /--------------------------------------|------------------------- 
> > --\
> > >>> | Jason McIntosh                       | CELL:  
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> > 573-884-3865        |
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> > >>>  
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> > are     |
> > >>> |for.  I only coded  
> > it."                                           |
> > >>> |(Attributed to Linus Torvalds, somewhere in a  
> > posting)            |
> > >>>  
> > \--------------------------------------|---------------------------/
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On May 1, 2007, at 10:29 AM, George Robb wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> xorg.0.log has a (WW) warnings about video bios (no current
> > >>>> access to machine at the moment).  A ton of (II) about memory
> > >>>> addresses and video modes and normal info.  No (EE) errors at  
> > all.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> George
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On May 1, 2007, at 10:21 AM, Scott Hussey wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Does the xorg.log tell you anything interesting when you SSH  
> > in?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 5/1/07, George Robb <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> > >>>>>> Hi MLUG-
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Has anyone had experience with FC4 (Ya, ya.. I know old
> > >>>>>> school...)
> > >>>>>> that crashes X so hard that the keyboard no longer responds to
> > >>>>>> status
> > >>>>>> LEDs (num lock, caps lock, etc...) or even ctrl-alt-del.   
> > Ctrl-
> > >>>>>> Shift-
> > >>>>>> Alt-Backspace won't even kill X.  The monitor goes out of sync
> > >>>>>> (no
> > >>>>>> signal) and the keyboard becomes a paperweight.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> A work around was to edit the inittab to keep things in
> > >>>>>> runlevel 3
> > >>>>>> but, for this particular user a GUI is a must.  I nuked
> > >>>>>> xorg.conf and
> > >>>>>> had the system build a new one with X -configure.  even X - 
> > config
> > >>>>>> xorg.conf.new crashes the system.  If I ssh in the system  
> > reveals
> > >>>>>> that X is at 99.7% cpu and has no desire to chill out.  A kill
> > >>>>>> -15
> > >>>>>> bounces off and a kill -9 brings things back to normal of
> > >>>>>> course with
> > >>>>>> no X.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Anyone else seen this before?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Thanks,
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> George
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
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