Re: [MLUG] mono

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I think this is mostly it.. correct me anywhere I'm mistaken..

Mono is an opensource implementation of the libraries and virtual 
machine needed to run .Net in Linux, BSD, etc. .Net is something like 
Java in that it provides sort of a virtual enviroment for programs to 
run in. Like Java it is comprised of a portable virtual machine, 
libraries, and programming language(s) that can be compiled to the .Net 
framework. With Java Sun foolishly only pushed the Java programming 
language although other languages are certainly possible and many exist. 
All compile to run in the Java virtual machine. With .Net Microsoft 
pushes it's C# language as the suggested language but was smart enough 
to try to get other languages such as C, Visual Basic, Perl, Python, etc 
to also adopt .Net versions.

There is nothing really wrong with this except it's even worse than 
using Java because Microsoft has a definate history of extending an open 
hand while driving a knife in your back. .Net programs will likely run a 
little slower and have a little more overhead than native programs. Also 
I expect Microsoft follows Java and uses the bad idea of using byte 
codes to compile to which is ineffecient where compiling to parse trees 
is a proven better idea (Orange Juice did this.). For Microsoft this is 
a fair idea because it'll make their programs portable in a similar way 
as Java does. For most opensource programs it matters little because 
most of them are written using portable languages and libraries anyway. 
The only real benefit you get is the ability to use Microsoft's dev 
tools which depending on your skill and needs could either be hellish or 
very helpful.

Overall the only real difference between Java and .Net is that Microsoft 
is marketing .Net in a more intelligent manner and has been able to 
learn from a few mistakes made with Java.

Shawn Parker wrote:

> mono allows developers to write cross-platform .net apps. i'm unsure
> of all the different languages involved in the mono framework.
>
> it is supposed to support windows.forms and the .net sdk at some point.
>
> my limited understanding is mono is simply a *nix clone of the .net
> framework. there is iteropperability between the two. but in my
> opinion it is more likely a competitor to .net.
>
> why else build a .net like framework that uses the .net sdk and can be
> developed in both windows or *.nix environments?
>
> it looks interesting. and, i'm sure it has a valid use for developing
> cross-platform open-source applications. but, it just seems to me, we
> have too many frameworks floating around.
>
> microsoft has .net. linux has mono. both systems can use ajax, ruby on
> rails, the lamp stack, mozilla, etc.
>
> since both lamp and mozilla, and their different variations, are
> openly available for windows and *nix systems already it would seem a
> more likely candidate for robust open-source, cross-platform
> development.
>
> but, everyone needs their own framework these days. novell has mono.
> mozilla has its own. microsoft has .net. and everyone else falls back
> on general lamp.
>
> of course, like i said. i have limited knowledge of .net and mono.
> this is all opinion and speculation.
>
>
>
> On 11/8/05, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
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>
> > On Tue, 8 Nov 2005, Shawn Parker wrote:
> >
> >    
> >
> > > why not invest more heavily in the lamp (linux, apache, postgre, mysql,
> > > php, perl, python, ruby, etc) stack instead of coming up with a middle
> > > ground for .net?
> > >      
> > I don't know anything about it.  I'm hoping someone will fill me in.  I'm
> > getting the impression that mono is a way to allow many programs, like
> > those you just listed, to work together.  Is that not it?
> >
> > Mike
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