Re: [MLUG] mono

[Shawn Parker <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

good point. i dropped a mono developer book onto my safari bookshelf.
i'm going to run through the book and all the little tutorials it
provides and see if i like it.

although, development speed is relative, in my opinion. the state app
we're testing, written in .net, sucks. it's poorly designed, poorly
developed and usability is non-existent.

speed matters little when the developers can't design a good quality
app. same could be said with php, i know. but, so far, most of the
.net apps i've seen released by general developers are bad.

it could also be argued that your can produce a web app in ruby and
ruby on rails in a matter of minutes as well...doesn't mean it will be
a good app.

:)

On 11/8/05, Vern Green <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> All I can say about .NET developing is that Microsoft has created (with
> version 2.0 anyway) a development platform with .NET that will blow anything
> else away.
>
> What Microsoft has done is created the means for faster development of
> software applications. I know for my purposes working with web platforms the
> new system is such a time saver.
>
> Using .NET and the ADO.NET tools, I can create a working data form for the
> web in arguably less than 5 minutes time. It is as simple as dragging a
> dataform from the tool menu to the page and then telling the dataform where
> to look for the data. The application writes everything from the SQL query
> to the opening, closing, updating, form validation and handles the data
> transfer between the application and the database. As far as I know, there
> is nothing out there that is doing this.
>
> To prove my point, I was recently working with a programming that was
> working in PHP and I bet him I could get a standard employee update
> application completed in less than half the time he could using PHP and
> MySQL. Using the .NET application with Microsoft's Studio developer, I was
> not only able to beat him, I beat him soundly by having the database design
> and the application programmed and running in less than 1 hour. (He never
> finished).
>
> So now, if I could take that kind of development power and build cross
> platform applications for Mac, Windows and Linux, my ability to provide
> useful applications and bringing them to market, or download if you prefer
> is increased.
>
> Look at it this way, it would be better for the whole of the open source
> community to have developers that can get applications of worth out there
> for all of us to use. If mono helps us do that, then it is going to be a
> good thing.
>
>
>
> On 11/8/05, ryan woodsmall <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> > Two things:
> >
> > 1. Mono will attract .Net developers to Linux/Mac OS X/wherever it
> > runs.  This is a good thing, as any developer growth for free and/or
> > alternative operating systems will benefit users.  And cross-platform
> > for (virtually) free is nice to boot.
> >
> > 2. For all the talk about Microsoft supporting developers, the open
> > source and free software camps porting their software to MS are
> > pretty much second-class citizens.  By supporting a Microsoft-centric
> > technology as a first-class citizen on OUR terms, we can give them a
> > middle finger and show them how it's done.  Again, this should
> > benefit everyone in the long term.
> >
> > I'm not a .Net developer, nor have I even investigated what all the
> > hubbub is about, but I can see the benefit in having a free, open
> > competing platform for the new "core" MS technology.  I doubt you
> > should even consider moving to .Net, though, if what you have works.
> > That's what counts in the long run!
> >
> >   ryan woodsmall
> >     EMAIL:PROTECTED
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 8, 2005, at 2:18 PM, Shawn Parker wrote:
> >
> > > i'll agree it's a good technology. i'm just not sold on why i should
> > > use it over something else.
> > >
> > > i can develop cross-platform apps now. web or otherwise. if the only
> > > reason is because it plays nice with .net. well, i don't use .net,
> > > either.
> > >
> > > :)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > members mailing list
> > EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/members
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Thanks
> F Vernon Green
> _______________________________________________
> members mailing list
> EMAIL:PROTECTED
> http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/members
>
>
>


--

- slp

_______________________________________________
members mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/members