RE: [MLUG] SuSE

["hou5ton" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

ya well, ... I bit the dust again.  ARG!!!

I went into the control panel of SuSE and started tweaking some stuff,
and it locked up big time.  I was just so tired of it I hardkilled the
machine and put the Linux harddrive on the shelf.

You guys are obviously better men than me.  I'm just not getting what
you see in this.  (ok, freedom from M$, ... and I would like that too
.....) but now I'm back on XP Pro just so I can get some work done.

Honestly now, here's what I'm wondering....  Could one of you guys
REALLY come to my home office, install RH or Debian, and in a reasonable
amount of time get both monitors working right, my scanner, digital
camera card reader, and CD burner?

You know, if ol' Billy knew how much time I've been spending trying to
not have anything to do with him, he'd be laughing his butt off at me.

anyway, ....
larry




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[mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chad Whiting
Sent: Sunday, August 03, 2003 9:21 PM
To: MLUG Members
Subject: Re: [MLUG] SuSE


On Sunday 03 August 2003 08:38 pm, Matt Ross wrote:
> My $.02 on the matter is that Slackware lacked the pretty graphics, 
> but all in all was just as easy to use as Mandrake (not tried RH 
> myself), while SuSE was harder in the fact that you had to know which 
> pieces you did and did not want installed. I will concede that I never

> got slack to recognize my PCMCIA eithernet card, but that was a driver

> issue, the OS worked fine without any more thinking required than 
> other distros.

Slackware lacks the graphics because Patrick tries to keep it simple,
the 
extra graphics SuSE throws in uses up RAM/Swap and is simply a waste of 
electricity. I mean seriously who needs a geko and a blue screen on your

tty1? Slackware is easy to use if you don't care how secure your system
is. 
Then again so is any distro/OS. One thing about Slack is you hafta lock
it 
down, make sure you disable all services you don't absolutely need
running 
and write a good iptables script. Another thing that's nice is you're
totally 
in control of everything and it's not automated like SuSE. SuSE is nice
but 
it's so similiar to windoze it's frightening. It forces you to accept a
ton 
of programs you don't need, taking up disk space and just plain being 
annoying. Not to mention you hardly know what's going on and how can you

really know if you're running a secure box when you use the SuSE
firewall 
when you have no idea what the heck it's really doing when you click on 
Paranoid (or whatever security setting you choose). Slack forces you to
learn 
about TCP wrappers and about TCP/IP protocols so you can write a good 
iptables script. Without this knowledge you can't run a secure
server...and 
by the way I set up my PCMCIA wireless networking card (linksys) to run
just 
fine on slackware.

just to clarify my statement - I have nothing against SuSE, but in my
opinion 
using SuSE is like running Windows without the BSOD. So in other words
SuSE 
is excellent but I prefer slackware because you become more intimate
with 
your box..
:)


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