Re: [MLUG] PHP

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I grew annoyed with PHP as I got into larger and larger projects. It just
didn't scale well. It was better than Perl in that regard maybe but still
grew very hard to manage. PHP 5 looks to have addressed some of these
issues so I'm tempted to try it again. I think Python is still easier to
work with overall but PHP does have some benefits to web programmers. I'd
say your suggestion that Ruby is sort of Python for Perl users is a really
good description.

There is a lot of simularities in programming graphical stuff between
Perl, Python, Ruby, C, etc if you use SDL, wxWindows, etc based libraries.
I expect to see PHP bindings for these in the near future too with the
improvements made in PHP5 and it's renewed emphasis on non-web scripting.


I glarked the log files
of the badly glorked service.
Soon, I grokked the glitch.

Michael McGlothlin <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
http://kavlon.org/

On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Jonathan King wrote:

>
> On Wed, 23 Apr 2003, Michael Procter wrote:
>
> > On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 07:22:01PM -0500, Mark Rages wrote:
> > > On Tue, Apr 22, 2003 at 02:25:03PM -0500, Pepper, Mike wrote:
> > > > I am looking for a good beginners book on PHP. I really don't have much
> > > > programming experience, the more basic the better
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > > > Mike Pepper
> > > > University of Missouri Columbia
> > > > UM Procurement Services
> > > > EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > > > (573) 882-5052
> > >
> > > This seems like a good place to incite a language war.
> > >
> > > I use both PHP and Python where I work.  As my familiarity with both
> > > languages grows, I find myself hating PHP and liking Python more.
> >
> > I guess everyone agrees with you.  Have you tried Ruby?
>
> I have a bit.  This is coming from a background in perl (with previous
> experience in C and Lisp).  Ruby, frankly, is 99% of what I would want
> Perl6 to be, if we ever do see Perl6.  The weaknesses with Ruby right now
> are related to the relative lack of (English language) documentation and
> less complete library coverage than more mature scripting languages.  My
> hunch is that Ruby appeals more to Perl people who wanted something
> cleaner but not quite as, um, pythonic as Python.  True Python users are
> less likely to see major advantages, although I think there were some over
> earlier versions of Python.  (Python's problem has recently been that
> the language has been changing faster than the books can keep up; Perl's
> problem is that Perl6 is still not there, but people don't want to commit
> as thoroughly to Perl5 at the moment.)
>
> I kind of like some Ruby's idioms.  Here's a prime number generator:
>
> ruby -e '(2..1000).each{|i|(2..Math.sqrt(i).floor).find{|j| i%j == 0} or p i}'
>
> OK, so that means...
>
>  (2..1000).each {|i|          # for each item i in the array (2..1000)
>    (2..Math.sqrt(i).floor)    # make a new array (2..floor(sqrt(i)))
>        .find{|j| i%j == 0}    # and in that array find a j such
>                               # that j divides i evenly (is composite)
>    or p i}'                   # or else print i since it's prime.
>
> I'm guessing you either like that or you hate it.
>
> jking
>
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