Re: [MLUG] PHP

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I really like PHP outside of its cryptic error messages and the fact you
can do things like refer to a variable that doesn't exist and get away
with it (don't know how many bugs I've had where the only problem was I
misspelled a variable name.) And the PHP debugger doesn't work with the
newest version of PHP last I checked, a problem for us living on the edge
Gentoo users. Really PHP should just have a standard debugging system like
any normal language.

While I'm not a highschool hacker, I'm a first-year college hacker, and I
use it to make fancy web pages (http://monroe.nu/projects.php for some of
the PHP RDF scripts I've written), so perhaps PHP is just a good fit. It
does what I want it to do and is easy to setup and work with.  However I
do see its weaknesses. The fact that it isn't really OOP, even though the
throw some OOP in there kind of annoys me. Also the code I write in PHP is
very messy (messier then any other language I code in), which is probably
more my fault then the language but I think PHP is somewhat at fault.

I've read about PHP 5 and it sounds like things will be much improved.

I have worked with Python a little and only stopped because I didn't
really have any ideas of what to code with it.

Ian Monroe
http://www.monroe.nu

On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, Mark Rages wrote:

> This seems like a good place to incite a language war.
>
> I use both PHP and Python where I work.  As my familiarity with both
> languages grows, I find myself hating PHP and liking Python more.
>
> To put it simply, PHP is a mess.  Different versions have radically
> different default behaviors, namespaces are a mess, with various
> register() functions and an ever-growing number of "magic" symbols.
>
> On the other hand, Python code is much easier to read, and operates
> consistently, and has a simple namespace mechanism for large
> projects.
>
> PHP feels like it was designed by high-school hackers who want
> something to make a fancy web page (It was) and Python feels like it
> was designed by a wise and experienced language designer. (It was)
>
> OK, enough flamebait.
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> Regards,
> Mark
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