Re: [MLUG] mlug?

["James Brockman" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I've seen a similar thinking in government.  Microsoft is for the 2000's
what IBM was for the last half of the 1990's:  The safe, secure thing.

Now, you may scoff when I say, 'safe, secure'.  Microsoft is judged by
management types as a company, not a line of products.  Managers often buy
based exclusively based on the perceived stability of the company and to
what degree the company looks like a leader in its industry.

James Brockman


----- Original Message -----
From: "Nathan Atkinson" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
To: <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [MLUG] mlug?



I believe the software you're referring to is Communigate Pro by Stalker
Software.  Unfortunately most decisions are bureaucratically driven
rather than technically driven.

Nathan A.

Spurling, Shannon wrote:

> Actualy, the migration to Exchange wasn't exactly driven by staff
> either.... Several evaluations of the exchange platform pointed out
> problems and several reasons not to standardized on that platform, but
> they were ignored. It was touted as the most complete intergrated
> communication solution. Remember, very few university wide decisions
> are actualy made by or on behalf of actual staff. Now I saw a more
> reliable and extendable server solution that is exchange compatable,
> and I can't remember where I saw it or who sold it. I runs under
> windows or unix, and has Mac, Unix, and Windows clients available for
> it. It's not free software, but the liscensing costs a lot less than
> Microsoft. Even if something like that were given as an alternative, I
> doubt it could be accepted. Microsoft has somehow gotten it's claws
> into the University, and I doubt they would let it happen.
>
> Shannon
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* King, Jonathan W.
>     *Sent:* Sun 12/8/2002 6:46 PM
>     *To:* EMAIL:PROTECTED
>     *Cc:* King, Jonathan W.
>     *Subject:* Re: [MLUG] mlug?
>
>
>     On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, John Borchardt wrote:
>
>     > hey, what the heck is going on with mlug?  the website hasn't been
>     > updated for like a year, and there isn't even any
>     > freesoftware.missouri.edu anymore.  does mlug even have a president?
>     > does he or she do anything?  when was the last
>     > meeting/presenation/expo/installfest?
>
>     Dunno on all counts.  Before the school year I and a couple of other
>     people volunteered to give presentations, but nobody ever got
>     around to
>     setting anything up...as far as I know.
>
>     [snip]
>
>     > so what?  is it okay for mlug to ostensibly do nothing while the
>     rest of
>     > the campus migrates to exchange server, outlook webmail, and winxp?
>
>     I doubt that migration to Exchange is anything that MLUG could have
>     influenced given that there was some fairly vocal opposition
>     expressed at
>     the time by some departments and faculty...who in practice do have at
>     least a bit more influence than your average sporadic undergraduate
>     organization.  I think a lot of the complete universality of MS
>     owes a lot
>     to the fact that it (and its file formats) were adopted as being
>     official
>     by the staff, which means that everybody else had to come along
>     for the
>     ride, at least if you wanted to send any electronic documents to them.
>
>     Actually, in my classes I forbade electronic submission of papers
>     and such
>     for the opposite (but identical in spirit) reason: I didn't want
>     to deal
>     with a bunch of dorkily formatted Word (random version here)
>     files.  This
>     year, I do accept these from (smaller) upper division classes
>     since I can
>     easily convert them into PDF.  Not the best end result, but I can live
>     with it.
>
>     jking
>
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