RE: [MLUG] mlug?

["Dooley, Ryan" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

The needed disk space is about 111GB as I recall... one of those 120GB
or 200GB WD drives (the ones with the 8MB cache should work). I was
given the opportunity to move it back to CTIE if I bought a disk.  That
is an option probably still.

And Adam in fact does get the kudos for keeping things running.  Thanks
Adam!

We tossed around the idea of finding space on campus to put an MLUG lab
together... the things we ran into were 1) time commitment from those
who would manage it, 2) space (as space was a premium on campus), 3)
responsibility of a sponsor on campus.  We solve those problems and make
a case to MSA or somebody else, and I bet we could do it. 

Cheers,
	Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, December 09, 2002 10:29 AM
To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
Subject: RE: [MLUG] mlug?

> Good grief... this is a large thread :-)  Let's take these in parts:
>
> 1) freesoftware
>
> Freesoftware has been shutdown until I can find a new home for it.
The
> resources on the server it was hosted on needed to be reclaimed and I
> didn't have the resources else where (i.e. disk space).  Once I find
> that magical space in the sky, freesofware will come back up.  It was
my
> pet project that started at the College of Education and followed me
to
> IATS (here on campus for you off-campus types ;-).

How much disk space would be needed? I'd think of tossing in a decent
sized IDE drive to MLUG if they wanted to host something like this.
Myself
I'd like to see some organized way for MLUG members to post their own
opensource software. Something like a local Freshmeat or something. I
assume people besides myself put out programs now and then but I rarely
see them.

> 2) MLUG as an organization
>
> Actually MLUG is an amazing thing.  Once upon a time I had started up
> the UUG (or CMUUG - Central Missouri UNIX Users Group).  Then I met
> Keith K. who was trying to start up a Linux users group.  We got
> together and decided, for better or for worse; they should be the same
> group.
>
> The cool thing about MLUG is that is very self sustaining.  I've not
> paid as much of attention as I should have to it, but with Keith and
Jay
> I didn't need to.  Remember the Expo?

I think Adam deserves a lot of praise for keeping thigns running. We
don't
see him there but things keep moving without lots of smoke pouring out
in
bad ways.

> MLUG isn't as organized as I'd like, and yes there should be more
> meetings (say two a month).  The trick is finding space.  When we had
> room at CTIE (in London Hall) or the room in the Union, it was much
> easier.  Anybody have any suggestions for WS2003?
>
> I'll make the time if needed, but you guys have a ton more energy than
I
> seem to these days and I've been nothing short of amazed in the fact
> that you've kept it going considering the times.

I wanted to open a private MLUG center somewhere for just hanging out
and
meetings and such. If you could find a cheap enough place tor ent
somewhere near campus it'd be nice to have your own place. Then along
with
regular meetings ya could just go there knowing other people would be
likely to hang out there to. Have it set up for LAN parties and stuff.
;)

> 3) UNIX dying on campus.
>
> Not very likely.  There is too much of a need on campus for UNIX to be
> around.  You simply don't get the performance from any Microsoft
> Product.  Enough MS bashing (I know, I know; that's not really bashing
> :-)
>
> There will be a place for Microsoft on campus.  The Exchange
environment
> for instance, will always be here.  The simple fact of the matter is
> that you really couldn't find a competing product except for HP Open
> Mail.  The deal looked better from Microsoft so that's what UM System
> choose to go with.  Probably a good thing as Open Mail has been sold
off
> to, what two different companies?
>
> Anyway, back to UNIX and the good stuff.  Most if not all of our
backend
> systems are UNIX based.  We simply have too many shops that need UNIX
> (in what ever form) for different applications and needs.  Not to
> mention all the Colleges and Departments on campus that have UNIX for
> research and development needs.  No, UNIX is not being "phased out" or
> shoved aside on campus.
>
> As for it not being taught, well, that's something that should
probably
> be taking up with the Computer Science department.
>
> 4) WinXP (and other Microsoft products) for free...
>
> Well the simple answer would be to appeal to the likes of
> RedHat/SuSE/etc. for free CDs and then hand them out the first day of
> class.  They used to do the same thing at Fry's when a new version of
a
> MS product came out.  Kind of cool actually.

Pass out Knoppix. Or if you just want to show how flexible Linux is pass
out self-booting Dreamcast discs that use Linux as the underlying OS and
play games written in Pygame. I've been working on getting those set up
to
demo my own games and there are several good games already available
that'd run that way. Or pass out self-booting discs for PC that play a
game or turn the machine into a DVD player or whatever.
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