RE: [MLUG] mlug?

["Dooley, Ryan" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Good grief... this is a large thread :-)  Let's take these in parts:

1) freesoftware

Freesoftware has been shutdown until I can find a new home for it.  The
resources on the server it was hosted on needed to be reclaimed and I
didn't have the resources else where (i.e. disk space).  Once I find
that magical space in the sky, freesofware will come back up.  It was my
pet project that started at the College of Education and followed me to
IATS (here on campus for you off-campus types ;-).

2) MLUG as an organization

Actually MLUG is an amazing thing.  Once upon a time I had started up
the UUG (or CMUUG - Central Missouri UNIX Users Group).  Then I met
Keith K. who was trying to start up a Linux users group.  We got
together and decided, for better or for worse; they should be the same
group.

The cool thing about MLUG is that is very self sustaining.  I've not
paid as much of attention as I should have to it, but with Keith and Jay
I didn't need to.  Remember the Expo?  

MLUG isn't as organized as I'd like, and yes there should be more
meetings (say two a month).  The trick is finding space.  When we had
room at CTIE (in London Hall) or the room in the Union, it was much
easier.  Anybody have any suggestions for WS2003?

I'll make the time if needed, but you guys have a ton more energy than I
seem to these days and I've been nothing short of amazed in the fact
that you've kept it going considering the times.

3) UNIX dying on campus.

Not very likely.  There is too much of a need on campus for UNIX to be
around.  You simply don't get the performance from any Microsoft
Product.  Enough MS bashing (I know, I know; that's not really bashing
:-)

There will be a place for Microsoft on campus.  The Exchange environment
for instance, will always be here.  The simple fact of the matter is
that you really couldn't find a competing product except for HP Open
Mail.  The deal looked better from Microsoft so that's what UM System
choose to go with.  Probably a good thing as Open Mail has been sold off
to, what two different companies?

Anyway, back to UNIX and the good stuff.  Most if not all of our backend
systems are UNIX based.  We simply have too many shops that need UNIX
(in what ever form) for different applications and needs.  Not to
mention all the Colleges and Departments on campus that have UNIX for
research and development needs.  No, UNIX is not being "phased out" or
shoved aside on campus. 

As for it not being taught, well, that's something that should probably
be taking up with the Computer Science department.

4) WinXP (and other Microsoft products) for free...

Well the simple answer would be to appeal to the likes of
RedHat/SuSE/etc. for free CDs and then hand them out the first day of
class.  They used to do the same thing at Fry's when a new version of a
MS product came out.  Kind of cool actually.

5) Calling meetings

Any body can call a meeting.  All you need is a space for like 20-30
people and then say from 7-8:30 there.  Pick a topic, do a presentation,
and then just hang out and be geeks.  It's what we used to do :-)

Cheers,
	Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Borchardt, John Joseph (UMC-Student) 
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 4:55 PM
To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
Subject: [MLUG] mlug?

hey, what the heck is going on with mlug?  the website hasn't been 
updated for like a year, and there isn't even any 
freesoftware.missouri.edu anymore.  does mlug even have a president?
does he or she do anything?  when was the last 
meeting/presenation/expo/installfest?

all this is kinda discouraging, considering the crap acm/msug/msdnaa is 
pushing for free (as in beer) software.  seems like unix is pretty much 
dying around here (e.g., delphi) and it really pains me to see freshman 
sucking up the free copies of winxp and visual studio.  (yeah, the first

one is always free...)  and it really sucks to see microsoft "buying 
out" the ignorant youth when at the same time linux is really making 
progress in terms of things like desktop usability and enterprise 
scalability.

so what?  is it okay for mlug to ostensibly do nothing while the rest
of the campus migrates to exchange server, outlook webmail, and winxp?

was jay the only president who could call a meeting?

-john borchardt



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