RE: [MLUG] mlug?

["Brent Deterding" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

It was most likely HP OpenMail - now purchased by Samsung and I forget
the name

-----Original Message-----
From: Spurling, Shannon [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]On
Behalf Of Spurling, Shannon
Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2002 10:00 PM
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Subject: RE: [MLUG] mlug?


Actualy, the migration to Exchange wasn't exactly driven by staff
either.... Several evaluations of the exchange platform pointed out
problems and several reasons not to standardized on that platform, but
they were ignored. It was touted as the most complete intergrated
communication solution. Remember, very few university wide decisions are
actualy made by or on behalf of actual staff. Now I saw a more reliable
and extendable server solution that is exchange compatable, and I can't
remember where I saw it or who sold it. I runs under windows or unix,
and has Mac, Unix, and Windows clients available for it. It's not free
software, but the liscensing costs a lot less than Microsoft. Even if
something like that were given as an alternative, I doubt it could be
accepted. Microsoft has somehow gotten it's claws into the University,
and I doubt they would let it happen.
 
Shannon

-----Original Message----- 
From: King, Jonathan W. 
Sent: Sun 12/8/2002 6:46 PM 
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Cc: King, Jonathan W. 
Subject: Re: [MLUG] mlug?




On Sun, 8 Dec 2002, John Borchardt wrote:

> hey, what the heck is going on with mlug?  the website hasn't been
> updated for like a year, and there isn't even any
> freesoftware.missouri.edu anymore.  does mlug even have a president?
> does he or she do anything?  when was the last
> meeting/presenation/expo/installfest?

Dunno on all counts.  Before the school year I and a couple of other
people volunteered to give presentations, but nobody ever got around to
setting anything up...as far as I know.

[snip]

> so what?  is it okay for mlug to ostensibly do nothing while the rest
of
> the campus migrates to exchange server, outlook webmail, and winxp?

I doubt that migration to Exchange is anything that MLUG could have
influenced given that there was some fairly vocal opposition expressed
at
the time by some departments and faculty...who in practice do have at
least a bit more influence than your average sporadic undergraduate
organization.  I think a lot of the complete universality of MS owes a
lot
to the fact that it (and its file formats) were adopted as being
official
by the staff, which means that everybody else had to come along for the
ride, at least if you wanted to send any electronic documents to them.

Actually, in my classes I forbade electronic submission of papers and
such
for the opposite (but identical in spirit) reason: I didn't want to deal
with a bunch of dorkily formatted Word (random version here) files.
This
year, I do accept these from (smaller) upper division classes since I
can
easily convert them into PDF.  Not the best end result, but I can live
with it.

jking

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