Re: [MLUG] with regards to the RAID & Backup solutions...

[Jason McIntosh <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

The thing on any tape backup system is of course cost.  How much would
it cost to replace all your information, how much is what you have on
your computer worth to you.  I know personally, that though the hardware
may not be worth much, the stuff such as software, source code, etc. is
worth a LOT to me.  So, if you look at cost, consider not only cost of
the hardware, but cost of replacement, and cost of what happens when
things go south.  Because things will go South eventually (Believe me,
I'm looking now for a backup solution - getting tired of losing stuff)

Anyway, this is an issue too many places take for granted.  Harddrives
are cheap today, as is so much else, but reliability and stability isn't
cheap.  Security is much the same as backup systems - we've gotten
complacent because there hasn't been a huge huge risk in the past. 
Security lately has become a much hotter issue.  Backups however need a
much higher priority than most people give them.

Ask yourself, if your nice new linux server went down, with a harddrive
failure or some such, how much time and energy would it take to restart
the system.  Also, you need to ask how long is too long for the system
to come back up.  These are just a few of the issues with any backup
system.  I could go into more details on backup systems, if people want
me to explain more ramifications and details.  I can explain from the
perspective of Oracle, and a 24/7 database system, and backup systems on
such a case.  

Ok, I've rambled on enough (all because of 4 hours of sleep b/c stupid
data transfer scripts failed at 1am).  

Cheers!
Jason

On Thu, 2002-08-01 at 10:14, Bob Avery-Babel wrote:
> Yeah. I'm still looking for an backup solution that I can afford. I have 1
> server with a 30GB Hard drive that I'd like to back up from time to time,
> but I'm not sure what the best cheapest solution would be for me. I have
> some web directories that are crucial and maybe a couple of home
> directories, but that's it. It might be cheaper to get a cdr and burn
> backups...
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Mark Haidekker" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> To: <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> Sent: Thursday, August 01, 2002 10:06 AM
> Subject: Re: [MLUG] with regards to the RAID & Backup solutions...
> 
> 
> > On Thursday 01 August 2002 01:19 am, you wrote:
> > > Just an idea for whomever.  These tape systems are NICE.  They're really
> > > reliable (this is the group that supposedly can dunk a tape in coffee
> and
> > > still read off of the tape later), work with linux, apple, winblows,
> etc.,
> > > and usually decently priced.  Plus, if you really want to get crazy, you
> > > can get a rack mount system with the motors, or other combinations.
> But,
> > > at 160GB (probably more like 120 or 130GB b/c of compression issues)
> that's
> > > a pretty nice deal.  You need only 4 or perhaps 5 tapes for your whole
> > > system, and if you get the motorized version, voila, you're set! Jason
> > >
> >
> > Now only some price ranges are missing. Would you mind...?
> >
> > Mark
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