RE: [MLUG] Getting SSH around despotic firewalls

["Ross, Matt" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

> At one point I would have given you that one.. anymore I often find it
> faster to work from books as there is so much spam on the 
> Internet. Google
> helps but in many cases there just aren't good keywords to 
> search for the
> authoritive source of information on a subject.

At one point I'd have agreed with that, but the more I search, the better I
get at it, and I can almost find everything I need within a matter of less
than an hour, while it may have taken me weeks to find it in print.  (I know
this from experience - those classes that require non-web sources.)

> <side note>
> This is why I work under the label of a made-up name that 
> I've seen used
> nowhere else.. anyone that uses it is probably me or someone 
> talking about
> me. It's been fairly interesting taking a word that once returned no
> results whatsoever from Google and watching as over time it 
> returns more
> and more results.
> </side note>

I have a similar name I use occasionally, and only once have I found it in a
search engine (someone made some rude comments about me on a newsgroup.)

> > and the sheer volumn of info out there, no, there aren't any
> > educational benefits. :-P
> 
> There are some but generally not as many as people think. 

Well, there are as many as people think, if it were perfect people using the
computers.  Nobody uses a computer that fully though, and a lot of people
make it less productive (porn sites on whitehouse.com for example).

> Computers need
> to be available but I'm not sure a school is the right place for them.
> They are better suited to libraries and community centers.

Some people can't make it across town to the library due to parental
restrictions.  If we lived in a perfect world, without dangerous idiots
picking on children, and without paranoid parents who won't let them leave
the house, then I'd agree.

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