RE: [MLUG] The dusty remains of Linuxgruven are being sued...

["Spurling, Shannon" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

First off, training doesn't guarantee that the student is "Smart Enough"
to take advantage of it. A lot of dummies may have taken the training,
and just failed to retain the information. And I have seen a lot of
dummies in this industry. Every joker who knows how to run the
installation wizard under windows thinks he can be a consultant. Then
they go out in the wide world, are asked questions they don't know the
answers to, and give out false answers that they pulled out of their
butts because they didn't want to look dumb. Computer stores are the
best place to find those guys. They are typically in sales at first.

The second issue I have with that article.  If you have a company and
you have promised goods, and go out of business, how do you fulfill your
obligations? Aren't they SOL? Forget that it's not an intangible item
like training. If they sold apples (The fruit, lets not get in a my
computer is better than yours argument), and they took payment for a few
thousand bushels, and went out of business before being able to obtain
the apples, what would happen? The assets get liquidated, and the
investors get paid, but what about the customers? The liquidation of
Commodore clearly showed that the stock holders get the shaft, but what
about unfulfilled customer orders, that can't be filled?

I imagine what they had were ads for trainers, and they hired the best
people they could get for trainers. As the number of applicants
increased, they increased the difficulty of the test in order to make
sure that they didn't get an overload of people to interview. I'm not
sure where they get the idea that training for any thing comes for free.
I guess proof of fraud would lie in the wording of the ads. Just because
I get training from Global Knowledge, or Skyline, doesn't mean it's
free, or that they are going to pay for it. Come on! Before they could
do something like that, they would have to be able to measure your
aptitude, and make you sign a contract. 

Shannon Spurling
WAN Engineer -Specialist

MOREnet, Network Services, Core Network
3212 LeMone Industrial Blvd.
Columbia, MO 65201

Main:(573) 884-7200   Fax:(573)884-6673

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-----Original Message-----
From: Jonathan King 
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2002 5:07 PM
To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
Subject: [MLUG] The dusty remains of Linuxgruven are being sued...



http://www.columbiatribune.com/2002/Jan/20020108Busi003.asp

Well, from this account it sounds really pretty scammy.

jking


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