RE: [MLUG] Mandrake 8.0/Red Hat 7.1 ISOs

["Davis, Ryan Wiley (UMC-Student)" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

So you are saying that winmodems run under linux? How do you do this. I
remeber asking on this list before and everyone told me that you couldnt get
a winmodem to run under Linux. This was some time ago though. That would be
cool if I could get it to work.


Ryan

-----Original Message-----
From: Igor Izyumin Jr. [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, April 23, 2001 3:57 PM
To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
Subject: Re: [MLUG] Mandrake 8.0/Red Hat 7.1 ISOs


On Monday 23 April 2001 15:17, you wrote:
> 1  Throw it in the dumpster
> 2  Buy a US Robotics external modem.
> 3  Never worry about connections ever again.
Why?  A lucent winmodem is just as good as any other modem.  It is 
controller-based, and does not take resources from the CPU.  You are 
confusing winmodems with HSP modems.  Lucent winmodems are NOT HSP modems.  
They are just PCI-based modems which may actually be better than old serial 
modem.  The software only does crap like the Hayes command set, and that is
a 
good thing, because there is a better possibility that it will set the modem

to the best settings (and there's really no reason to run the same software 
on the modem itself).  People are using PCI-based soundcards as something 
better, so why the hell use old ISA-based modems?  Besides, these modems are

software-upgradeable, so you will not need to buy a new modem when a new 
standard (such as v.92) comes out.

> I don't know anything about using a win modem in Linux.
They work perfectly with the driver.

> All I know about win modems is that they are using software and the OS to
> do what a modem has always done with IC's on the modem.  Cheep modem
means,
> not all of the parts are there and big headaches.
Why do you need an EPROM BIOS on the modem?  Why do you need an RS232 
interface?  What the hell for?  Once again, you're confusing modems with 
soundcards (also known as HSP modems).  A lucent winmodem is a modem, not a 
soundcard.  It just doesn't have old legacy crap like RS232 and a BIOS.

> Internal modem means, modem hangs, reboot your computer to power off you
> modem.
How many times has your soundcard hung?  Or your processor?  Should we all
be 
using external NICs because they might hang?  And what about the TV cards 
that are based on the BT84X chips (which hook directly to the PCI bus)?  The

only modems that hang are old modems that implement everything via an 
on-board CPU, and there's no reason to use them when we have fast CPUs and 
lots of RAM.  However, they are much cheaper to make because they do not
need 
stupid legacy technology (such as EPROM chips for storing the command set), 
and the firmware can easily be upgraded and bug-fixed.  Hell, just an eprom 
costs around $5.  What for?
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