RE: [MLUG] network cables?

[Michael <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

So far the only weird thing has been that the cheapy network cards I
bought (good enough for my needs) seem to have a fixed address that
happened to be the same as my existing network card so neither worked
after the install. Luckily my other card was a little better and was no
big deal to readdress. :)

*^*^*^*
Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape
you. -- Albert Einstein

On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:

> That's the better way to do it anyway.  If weird things happen now you can
> plug something else into the hub and find the problem.
> 
> --J
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2001 12:17 PM
> > To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > Subject: RE: [MLUG] network cables?
> > 
> > 
> > *nods* I was mostly trying to make sure I was right and my 
> > book was wrong
> > as it is something I haven't done in practice before. As it turns out
> > wally world had a stupid home networking kit w/ two network 
> > cards and a
> > hub for $40 so i just got that and ignored the issue. :)
> > 
> > *^*^*^*
> > Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for 
> > they will shape
> > you. -- Albert Einstein
> > 
> > On Thu, 1 Mar 2001, McNutt, Justin M. wrote:
> > 
> > > Technical Discussion:
> > > 
> > > There are two sides to any Ethernet connection:  the 
> > "terminal" side (DTE,
> > > or "Data Terminal Equipment"), and the "switch" or "hub" 
> > side (DCE, or "Data
> > > Circuit-Terminating Equipment").
> > > 
> > > The short - and more common - version of those names for 
> > Ethernet are "MDI"
> > > for the station side and "MDI-X" on the switch/hub side.
> > > 
> > > The basic idea is that you always have to connect MDI to 
> > MDI-X.  So to hook
> > > two computers directly together (MDI-to-MDI), you need a 
> > crossover cable.
> > > The crossover cable essentially changes one side to MDI-X, 
> > allowing the two
> > > to connect.
> > > 
> > > The same thing happens when you try to connect two switches 
> > to each other.
> > > Both devices are MDI-X, so you need a crossover to change 
> > one of them to
> > > MDI.
> > > 
> > > You know how some hubs/switches have a port marked 
> > "uplink"?  That's a MDI
> > > port, so you can connect it directly to another switch/hub without a
> > > crossover.
> > > 
> > > That's also why the "uplink" port and the port next to it 
> > often can't be
> > > used at the same time.  They're the same Ethernet port, one 
> > jack is the MDI
> > > jack and the other is the MDI-X jack, but it's still really 
> > only one port.
> > > Most vendors will put a line on the chassis that connects 
> > the two jacks as a
> > > visual reminder of this.
> > > 
> > > --J
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Michael [mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2001 6:29 PM
> > > > To: EMAIL:PROTECTED
> > > > Subject: [MLUG] network cables?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > the term for an ethernet cable to hook two computers together 
> > > > w/out a hub
> > > > is a crossover cable right? my dictionary says crossovers 
> > > > only work for
> > > > mac's. isn't that the right way to hook up any hubless 
> > > > ethernet between
> > > > two machines?
> > > > 
> > > > *^*^*^*
> > > > Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for 
> > > > they will shape
> > > > you. -- Albert Einstein
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