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 The UNIX® CRONicle                                           December 1999

               Official Publication of the STL!/unix/usr/group

              UNIX® is a registered trademark of the Open Group
           Online version: http://www.sluug.org/~editor/9912.html
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Table of Contents

   * Next Meeting Details
   * Tutorial: None This Month - Presentation Starts Early
   * Presentation: High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of five
   * Book Special(s):
   * Upcoming Events
   * Meeting Directions
   * Article(s)
        o Elections Approaching
        o Attendance Survey Results
        o Quotations
        o Guru's Corner in January
        o Almost Free Books
        o Personal Commentary
   * Special Interest Groups (SIGS)
        o Linux SIG (SLUUGLS)
        o Computer Telephony Integration SIG (SLUUG CiTI)
        o Digital Alpha SIG
   * Steering Committee
   * Sponsors
   * SLUUG on the World Wide Web
   * SLUUG Administration is volunteer based.
   * /usr/groups/other
   * Contacts
   * Submitting Articles to the SLUUG CRONicle
   * SLUUG PO Box

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Next Meeting Details

                   Wednesday, December 8, 1999 at 6:30 PM
                      Sunnen Products, 7910 Manchester

 6:30 PM  Tutorial        None This Month - Presentation Starts Early

 6:31 PM  Announcements   (Standard Introductions & Procedure )

 6:35 PM  Call For Help   (An opportunity for you to ask technical
                          questions of the group)

 6:45 PM  Presentation    High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of
                          five

 7:20 PM  Admittance to building may no longer be possible See Meeting
          Directions

 8:00 PM  Break           Social, off-line conversations, & book sales

 8:20 PM  Continue        High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of
                          five
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Tutorial

None This Month - Presentation Starts Early

Abstract:

Due to the expected length of the presentation panel we have decided to
forego our usual monthly tutorial in favor of allowing more time for the
main topic.

Presentation

High Speed Home Internet Access by a panel of five

Abstract:
BROADBAND ISP SERVICE TO YOUR HOUSE. Conventional modems have reached their
speed limit but now new technologies have become available :such as
satellite (ex. Direct PC), aDSL and sDSL on your old phone lines, wireless
(radio/microwave), and cable modems. 5 vendors, each representing a
technology, will participate in a panel discussion and question period to
compare their advantages.

Panel Companies:
Primary Phonix Charter Worknet Hughes

For more info contact Gary Meyer by sending mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED .

[ Editor's Notes:

The October 1999 issue of Scientific America does a feature article on
exactly our topics. They have a couple of pages on EACH of the technologies.

So, if anyone wants to do their homework and read up before the meeting, see
your friendly neighborhood public library.

Monday 28 Nov
General Motors announced that it was considering selling part of the 67%
interest they own in Hughes Electronics. Hughes Electronics is the parent of
Hughes Network (Direct TV & Direct PC among other offerings), Hughes
Satellite (builds the birds), and majority owner of PanAm Sat (opertes
satellites). GM stock rose after the announcement.

Tues 29 Nov
There is a petition being circulated in the City of St.L. to overturn the
recently signed law requiring the cable operator (currently AT&T) to provide
equal service to competing ISPs.

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Special Promotion(s)

                          Title of the Month    ----------------------------
                                                All regularly priced titles
                       The 25% discount special are 10% off retail cost at
 [blue triangle right]   will be on all JAVA    the general meeting.
                        books. Get a free Tee   (Excludes featured, or
                          Shirt with any $30    specially priced or
                              purchase.         promotional items)
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[O'Reilly Logo]

The O'Reilly and Associates line of books is available at each monthly
general meeting as a convenience to our members.

Each month features a book related to that month's presentation or tutorial
topic.

Discounts off retail cost are offered to all members and each month's
featured book(s) may be additionally discounted. Usually, all titles are
discounted 10%, while special titles are discounted 25%.

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Upcoming Events

                     [St. Louis UNIX Users Group stuff]
      SLUUG General      December 8, 1999 at 6:30 PM
      Meeting            Sunnen Products
                         7910 Manchester (at Hanley)
                         St. Louis, MO

      Steering Committee December 14, 1999 at 6:00 PM
                         Daugherty Systems
                         One City Place (2nd floor)
                         Creve Coeur, MO

      Macintosh Users    December 14, 1999
                         See http://www.gamug.org/ iBook raffel $5

      Linux SIG          December 16, 1999 at 7:00 PM
                         See http://www.sluug.org/sluugls/
                         ( TOPIC: ) Something Really Good by Some One
                         Indian Trails Library
                         8400 Delport Drive (at Midland)
                         St. Louis, MO

      Perl Mongers       January 6, 2000
                         See http://stlouis.pm.org/

      SLUUG General      January 12, 2000
      Meeting
      Steering Committee January 18, 2000

      Linux SIG          January 20, 2000

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Meeting Directions

The STL!/unix/usr/group meets the 2nd Wednesday of every month at Sunnen
Products, 7910 Manchester Blvd, just east of Hanley on Manchester.

Directions From Downtown

  1. Take 40 West to the Hanley exit.
  2. Turn left (south) onto Hanley.
  3. Turn left (east) onto Manchester, then turn right ASAP into the Sunnen
     Products driveway.

See map at http://www.sluug.org/info/sunnen.html

(NOTE: A security guard from Sunnen is scheduled to be at the door from 6:20
PM to 7:20 PM to allow entry. After 7:20, the door will be unattended and
attendees may not be able to enter.)

The SLUUG Steering Committee meets the Tuesday following the general meeting
at 6:00 PM in the 2nd floor training room of Daugherty Systems, One City
Place in Creve Coeur.

The SLUUG Linux SIG (SLUUGLS) meets the 3rd Thursday of every month at the
Indian Trails Public Library.

See map at http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~feldt/sluugls/indian.html

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Article(s): The following article(s) express(es) personal opinions and SLUUG
exerts no more editorial control over such content than does a public
library, bookstore, or newsstand. Any opinions, advice, statements,
services, offers, or other information or Content expressed herein are those
of the respective author(s) and not necessarily supported by SLUUG. SLUUG
does not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any content,
nor its merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose.

   * Elections Approaching
   * Attendance Survey Results
   * Quotations
   * Guru's Corner in January
   * Almost Free Books
   * Personal Commentary

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Elections Approaching by Gary Meyer

Elections are rapidly approaching. SLUUG holds officer elections at our
February meetings. If you are interested in an officers position, or would
like more information about the administrative duties for the organization,
please visit our website at http://www.sluug.org/

Please contact Rich Seibel by sending mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED if you
need more specific information on the offices or other aspects of the SLUUG
professional association.

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Attendance Survey Results - New Holes

Below are results of the attendance & survey sheets collected at the...

SLUUG General meeting on 10 November 1999:
*38 Actual head count.
*20 Attendance & survey sheets were turned in.
*4 attendees requested to be subsribed to our email newsletter.

Results of each question on our OPTIONAL survey/questionaire:

1. Tutoral (only at General meeting):

*Big Disks & Your Database by Mike Kriz

*3 - Excellent
*9 - Good
*5 - Fair
*1 - Late, didn't see.
*2 - No response to question

2. Presentation: Foundation Suite - A Logical Volume Manager by Timothy Akin

*5 - - Excellent
*9 - - Good
*3 - - Fair
*2 - - Leaving, can't wait.
*1 - - No response to question.

SLUUG COMMENTS:
*Handled complicated topic well.
*A log of good discussion, very interesting.
*Tutorial did not have enough time for big topic.
*Tutorial had good discussion and no consensus. Presentation scope was bad.
*Tutorial session was very interesting but didn't really give enough
background for dealing with the presentation. It wasn't really a tutorial.

SLUUG Linux Special Interest Group meeting on 18 November 1999:
*60 Actual head count.
*29 Attendance & survey sheets were turned in.
*13 attendees requested to be subsribed to our email newsletter.

Results of each question on our OPTIONAL survey/questionaire:

1. Linux SIG Topic: The Trials & Joys of Installing Linux by Troy DeArmitt
*21 - - Excellent
*2 - - Good
*6 - - No response to question.

2. What would you like to see.
*Expert help sessions for newbies
*A walk thru of the init process.
*In depth discussion of kernel re-building
*Someone's favorite post-install config tweeks.
*Security / Internet / Networking / Sys Admin

3. What can you present....
*Those few volunteers will be contacted by Matt Feldt or Gary Meyer.

Linux SIG COMMENTS:
*Best presentation in years.
*This guy is funny. He should try PKO!
*Humerous and remanicent of my early Linux days.
*Perhaps a little more explanation for those just learing. Thanks.
*This was great! Thanks for relating the experience and putting up with our
kidding. We will take the [speakers] suggestion to heart.
*Need to make a HTML file that has meeting times, mainling lists, web
addresses, etc. to display at the begining of each meeting. Make one each
for Windoze diskette and Linux diskette.

OBSERVATIONS:
This was was an excellent turn out with 13 requests for SLUUG newsletter.
Wave Technologies donation of over 50 copies of Calderia 2.2 was the best
give away feeding frenzy in months.

OPINION:
We might get more attendance sheets returned if we would tie them to the
giveaways; but, with 50 copies of anything it would be even more frantic.

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Quotations

Those who do not understand Unix are condemned to reinvent it, poorly.
- -- Henry Spencer

At the November General SLUUG meeting:

Cable modems give a whole new meaning to Network Neighborhood.
- -- Tom Parsons

At the November Linux SIG meeting:

What's with you Micro$oft guys and reinstalling the OS?
- -- Matthew (Matt) Feldt from 3 Nov 99

Just think how long it would have taken you to mount the CD, if you hadn't
been logged on as root!
- -- Stanford (Stan) Baldwin

Seen on Slashdot:

If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
..oh wait, he does. -- Nate Fox (EMAIL:PROTECTED)

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Guru's Corner in January submitted by Editor

In January a small group of those that are bored with the tutorials will
meet in the secondary room, behind the main presentation area. Attendance
will not be by invatation; but, lurkers and wantabees will be embarassed and
urged to leave. Subject matter will be refereed by Rich Seibel.

Suspenders and pocket protector optional. Bring your slide rules.

Do you have what it takes to run with the Guru?

Please contact Rich Seibel by sending mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED if you
have suggestions for this experiment.
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Almost Free Books submitted by Editor

Card holders can request items the St. Louis County Library should acquire,
and suggest items currently not owned by the library

Use this site to request items that are not in the catalog or titles that
are on order.
http://www.slcl.lib.mo.us/iii/on_order_holds.htm

or if you prefer: http://199.181.178.210/

They have gotten four of the six books that I'v requested in the last two
months. Linux books seem to be high interest, so not a problem. They
apparently will usually not order any books that have tear out sections in
them.

Non-Linux, Unix specific books above a certain price will require more
demand before they start to order them. So, start requesting!

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Personal Commentary submitted by Almost Anybody

The following PERSONAL COMMENTARY expresses personal opinions and SLUUG
exerts no more editorial control over such content than does a public
library, bookstore, or newsstand. Any opinions, advice, statements,
services, offers, or other information or Content expressed herein are those
of the respective author and not necessarily supported by SLUUG. SLUUG does
not guarantee the accuracy, completeness, or usefulness of any content, nor
its merchantability or fitness for any particular purpose.

Seen on Slashdot:

Windows hasn't increased computer literacy. It's just lowered the standard.

     ANY OPPOSING COMMENTS MAY BE MADE BY SENDING
     mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED for consideration for future
     publication.)

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Special Interest Groups (SIGS)

As our membership grows, we have had some inquiries about the possibility of
having Special Interest Groups in several areas. If you are interested in
starting or participating in a SIG for System Administration, Networking, C,
Object Oriented Programming, a specific vendor, etc., please call Dave Mills
at 230-5151, extension 103, or contact any officer of the group.

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St. Louis Unix Users Group - Linux SIG (SLUUGLS)

Visit the Linux SIG home page (http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~feldt/sluugls/) for
the latest meeting details.

LOCATION DIRECTIONS:

     Indian Trails Public Library
     8400 Delport Drive
     (at Midland)
     (314)-428-5424

Follow   Exit Page east to North-South Rd., go left on North-South Rd. to
170:     Midland, go left on Midland one block to Delport, the Library is
         on your left (see map at
         http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~feldt/sluugls/indian.html).

For more information on SLUUGLS refer to the WWW home page for the group at
http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~feldt/sluugls or contact Matthew Feldt by
mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

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Computer Telephony Integration User's Group (SLUUG CiTI)

The CTI SIG is no longer having regular meetings and is currently using a
webboard format.

The Computer Telephony Integration (CTI) Users Group is a non-profit
organization open to developers, end-users, sales people, and others who
share the common interest of melding the telecommunications and computing
worlds.

For more information on SLUUG CiTI contact Tony Zafiropoulos by
mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED or (314)878-9855.

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Digital Alpha SIG

The Digital Alpha SIG is for those interested in Digital UNIX and the DEC
Alpha architecture. Visit the Digital Alpha SIG's home at
http://www.sluug.org/~newton/asighome.html for more information.

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St. Louis UNIX Users Group Steering Committee

The SLUUG Steering Committee meets the Tuesday following the general 2nd
Wednesday meeting at 6:00 PM in the 2nd floor training room of Daugherty
Systems, One City Place in Creve Coeur. The guard can direct you to the
meeting location. Anyone is welcome to attend. If you would like to become
more involved in the planning of SLUUG, feel free to join us at the next
Steering Committee meeting. Meetings usually last 1.5 to 2 hours.

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Sponsors

*Analysts International http://www.analysts.com/
*Andersen Consulting http://www.ac.com/
*CIBER, Inc. http://www.ciber.com/
*Cypress Systems, Ltd. http://www.cypress-systems.com/
*Daugherty Systems http://www.daugherty.com/
*Informix Corporation http://www.informix.com/
*Maryville Data Systems, Inc. http://www.maryville.com/
*O'Reilly & Associates http://www.ora.com/
*Phoenix Networks http://www.pnix.net/
*Phoenix Networks http://www.phoenixnetworks.net/
*Renaissance Worldwide, Inc. http://www.rens.com/
*Sun Microsystems http://www.sun.com/
*Sunnen Products http://www.sunnen.com/
*Sykes Enterprises, Inc. http://www.sykes.com/
*Venmar Systems, Inc. http://www.venmar.com/

*The Law Offices of Rich McLennan, send mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

For more information about sponsoring the St. Louis UNIX Users Group,
contact Ed Wehner, send mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED.

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SLUUG on the World Wide Web

The St. Louis UNIX Users Group maintains a WWW page at
http://www.sluug.org/. Visit us to learn more about who we are and what we
do, visit other UNIX user groups' WWW pages, sign up for a SIG, or just to
browse.

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SLUUG Administration is volunteer based.

SLUUG is looking for volunteers to help with presentations, web page
development, managing corporate sponsorships, and many other tasks. If you
would like to help out, contact Chris Wanta by
mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED or visit
http://www.sluug.org/~cfw1/help.html.

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/usr/groups/other

We publish other user group meeting schedules on a reciprocal basis. If you
are a member of another non-profit group, please inform them of our policy
and invite them to exchange meeting information by
mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED, or call any of the SLUUG officers.

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Contacts

 BBS Questions  Jim (Knight)
                Ford          mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Corporate      Ed Wehner
 Sponsors                     mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Newsletter     Editorial
 Submissions    team:         mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Publisher      Sanjiv Bhatia Home: (314)519-9272
                              Work: (314)516-6520
                              FAX: (314)516-5400
                              mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Editor         Stan          Home: (314)298-1183
                Reichardt     mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED
                              http://www.sluug.org/~stan
                              mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 O'Reilly       Dave Mills    Work: (314)230-5151, extension 103
 Books                        mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Presentations  Open Position Send info/ideas to
                              mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Steering       Gary Meyer
 Committee                    Home: (314)781-8644
 Information                  mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 SLUUG          Rich Seible
 Secretary                    mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 SLUUG          Mike Kriz
 Treasurer                    mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Special Interest Groups (SIGs)

 Computer       Tony          Phone: (314)878-9855
 Telephony      Zafiropoulos  http://www.ctitek.com/ctiusers/ctiusers.html
 Integration
 (CTI)                        mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED

 Linux          Matthew Feldt Home: (314)429-5433
                              http://www.cs.umsl.edu/~feldt
                              mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED
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Submitting Articles to the SLUUG CRONicle

If you would like to submit an article to the CRONicle of general interest
to the members of the St. Louis UNIX Users Group,send
mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED The deadline for article submissions is two
weeks before the next general meeting.

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SLUUG PO Box

The St. Louis UNIX Users Group has a P.O. box. All official correspondence
with SLUUG should now be sent to:

    St. Louis UNIX Users Group
    P.O. Box 411302
    Creve Coeur Post Office
    St. Louis, MO  63141-9998

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