MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Doctor Recalls Abortion Complications Before Roe v. Wade
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Doctor Recalls Abortion Complications Before Roe v. Wade
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On Tue, 8 Jul 2008, Jim Locke wrote:

> I have mixed feelings about this, as likely do others, however agree 
> with Mike in that a fetus really is a parasite in that it completely 
> depends on the mother's body.

We agree about the dependency issue, but I wouldn't use the word 
"parasite" because a parasite should be of a different species.

> Seems like the question of "when does a fetus become a person" is a 
> classic topic of debate.

That's for sure.  It's really a matter of defining "person," so I don't 
see any grounds for agreement.  It would be nice though if the 
anti-abortion people could admit that there is a big differences between 
(A) removing a few cells from a woman who doesn't want them and (B) 
killing a beloved baby from some happy family.  To compare abortion in 
America today with the Nazi Holocaust against the Jews is another really 
bad idea that should be put to rest.

Mike


> On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 7:34 PM, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Michael wrote:
>>
>>> It's just as much my right to say if she can kill her unborn child as it
>>> is say if she can kill her seven year old child.
>>
>> One important difference is that a fetus is not a person.  Also, the fetus
>> is totally dependent on the body of the mother for its survival.  If the
>> mother doesn't kill the fetus, but simply has it removed, then it will
>> die.  She won't have killed it -- it's just not an independent person and
>> it cannot live on its own.
>>
>> I know we won't all agree on this!  Your argument is valid, but there is a
>> valid counterargument too.  So in my book both sides make sense and I have
>> a position that I think offers the best solution:  Legal abortion until 5
>> months gestation, beyond 5 months only for medical reasons (life of the
>> mother or extreme fetal illness).
>>
>> Mike
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