MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Broken Lives
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Broken Lives
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On Wed, 2 Jul 2008, Michael wrote:

> In extreme cases any information is something to go on. Sometimes even 
> tainted obviously wrong information can give you clues.

But if you are looking for the atom bomb and the terrorist detainee you 
are questioning tells you that it is in the basement at 27 E 51st St, and 
it isn't there, how does that do you any good?

Torture works in the sense that it gets people to say things that will 
cause you to stop torturing them.  For example, it works great for 
confessions.  The guy who is accused of helping to organize the attack on 
the USS Cole had his confession tortured out of him (water boarding). 
Only problem -- the confession is worthless in our courts.


> Sometimes you have to do bad things for the greater good. Sometimes you 
> have to take Ole Yellar out back and shoot him for the greater good. 
> Being a good leader is not something that is likely to leave you with 
> warm fuzzy feelings about yourself. It's not a job for people who always 
> want to take the obvious moral right.

Like I said, I'm fine with torturing peole except for all the problems it 
causes and the fact that it does not work.  It isn't a moral issue.  It's 
purely a pragmatic one.

Mike

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