Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Pssst...do something...

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Thu, 8 May 2008, Jonathan King wrote:

> This is true. I have *no idea* what she is thinking right now. 
> Seriously. She was quoted today saying something just completely bizarre 
> about how she should be the nominee because hard-working white folks 
> supported her. OK, so this is exactly what she said:
>
> From USAToday's new interview with Sen. Clinton ...
>
> "I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said
> in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an
> Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among
> working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again,
> and how whites in both states who had not completed college were
> supporting me."
> "There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
>
> Now, I don't think she meant it to sound that way, but this is just not 
> cricket. No matter what your thought processes are, you should be very 
> careful not to say things like this.

I am starting to worry about her.  She seems like she's about to crack. 
She obviously wanted to be president for decades now and she's seeing her 
life's dream crumble a little at a time.  It will take her a little while 
to change roles again.  It's also hard when you have thousands of people 
busting their tails to make you president and then you have to say "no, 
time to quit now, time to give up."


> > She is a US Senator and I'm sure she'd like to have a Democrat 
> > president for several reasons, one of which is that he will help her 
> > bills to get passed.
>
> Which bills would those be? Seriously; there may be many reasons to 
> support Hillary Clinton, but I don't see her distinguished history in 
> authoring bills to be one of them.

Whichever bills she comes up with in the next four years.  There is a long 
list here of the hundreds bills she has sponsored and co-sponsored, if you 
scroll down a bit:

http://www.statesurge.com/members/908


> > If she does anything to hurt Obama's chances against McCain, she will 
> > look like dirt and any small chance she would have had of winning the 
> > nomination in 2012 will evaporate.  People will be watching her like 
> > hawks.
>
> She has already done a lot to hurt Obama's chances against McCain. Given 
> the way that Democrats apportion delegates, she was 99.5% lost before 
> Pennsylvania, meaning that we have had weeks of her attacking the almost 
> certain nominee of her own party. In the past two weeks, she has added 
> aggressive anti-intellectualism to the mix as well. I have become 
> completely unimpressed with her, I'm sorry to say.

I haven't seen her attacking him lately.  What has she done that could be 
harming his chances against McCain?  I didn't know about the "aggressive 
anti-intellectualism" -- what did she do?

I think the continued campaigning is good for the Democrats because they 
aren't tearing into one another and it is keeping them in the news and 
McCain on the sidelines.  It really isnt' a bloodbath at all.


> Or, to put it into high relief, here are the high points of the three 
> campaigns since Super Tuesday:
>
> 1) Obama writes and delivers the "A More Perfect Union" speech.
> 2) McCain's "Forgotten Places" tour.
> 3) Clinton's...okay, you tell me. Seriously.

McCain's "Forgotten Places" tour didn't amount to much.  He had his photo 
taken with some black people in Alabama.

Obama's speech was good, but I'm more impressed with his ability to 
extemporize and to respond to tricky questions and difficult situations. 
He has amazing skills.

Hillary has been impressive just by being persistent, not giving up 
despite all the criticisms.  She says that the people want someone who 
will fight for them and not give up easily.  Well, I think she's making a 
good case for herself.  Sometimes I wonder if she will ever give up.  Is 
she going to show up at the White House on January 20?  I do agree that 
she shouldn't give up easily.  She is the first serious female candidate 
for US President and she has to show that she can hang in their with the 
guys right up to the bitter end.  As long as there is any hope, she will 
not quit.

Mike

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