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- Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Pssst...do something...
- From: "Jonathan King" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Date: Thu, 8 May 2008 23:17:52 -0400
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On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 2:15 PM, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> On Thu, 8 May 2008, Vern Green wrote:
>
> > I think Hillary is doing what she is doing in order to weaken Obama. She
> knows that if Obama wins, then she will never get to be president as she
> will be too old in 2016 to run.
> >
> > If she can drain Obama's funds now, then she gets a chance to run again if
> > McCain wins. I think there are more than one flaw in her thought process
> > though.
>
> That was your thought process, Vern. We don't know what she's thinking.
This is true. I have *no idea* what she is thinking right now.
Seriously. She was quoted today saying something just completely
bizarre about how she should be the nominee because hard-working white
folks supported her. OK, so this is exactly what she said:
>From USAToday's new interview with Sen. Clinton ...
"I have a much broader base to build a winning coalition on," she said
in an interview with USA TODAY. As evidence, Clinton cited an
Associated Press article "that found how Sen. Obama's support among
working, hard-working Americans, white Americans, is weakening again,
and how whites in both states who had not completed college were
supporting me."
"There's a pattern emerging here," she said.
Now, I don't think she meant it to sound that way, but this is just
not cricket. No matter what your thought processes are, you should be
very careful not to say things like this.
> She is a US Senator and I'm sure she'd like to have a Democrat president
> for several reasons, one of which is that he will help her bills to get
> passed.
Which bills would those be? Seriously; there may be many reasons to
support Hillary Clinton, but I don't see her distinguished history in
authoring bills to be one of them.
> If she does anything to hurt Obama's chances against McCain, she
> will look like dirt and any small chance she would have had of winning the
> nomination in 2012 will evaporate. People will be watching her like hawks.
She has already done a lot to hurt Obama's chances against McCain.
Given the way that Democrats apportion delegates, she was 99.5% lost
before Pennsylvania, meaning that we have had weeks of her attacking
the almost certain nominee of her own party. In the past two weeks,
she has added aggressive anti-intellectualism to the mix as well. I
have become completely unimpressed with her, I'm sorry to say.
Or, to put it into high relief, here are the high points of the three
campaigns since Super Tuesday:
1) Obama writes and delivers the "A More Perfect Union" speech.
2) McCain's "Forgotten Places" tour.
3) Clinton's...okay, you tell me. Seriously.
I don't know if everybody recognizes it right now, but the "A More
Perfect Union" speech is something we will be telling our grandkids
about. I am not especially impressed with John McCain, but I cannot
honestly remember the last time I saw a Republican make any real
attempt to address poverty in any serious way.
I am blanking on Clinton, but I am sure that she's said or done
something that we could be proud of in this time.
jking
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