MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] 10 things to know about McCain (fwd)
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] 10 things to know about McCain (fwd)
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What exactly did Kerry flip-flop on?  The media and Bush campaign seemed to paint him this was because of his stance on Iraq and his vote for it/etc.  Kerry communication style was not very compatible with the sound bites that the media used and his opponents played on.
Deceit is a very powerful thing.

I'm a pretty independent guy, and I don't recall ever thinking "boy, Kerry sure changed his view on that."
Not to say he didn't, but where did he change his view/stance during the campaign?

On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 8:27 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
Jim Locke wrote:



On Sun, Apr 6, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED <mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED>> wrote:

   Mike Miller wrote:

       On Sun, 6 Apr 2008, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:


               9. McCain has sought closer ties to the extreme
               religious right in recent years. The pastor McCain calls
               his "spiritual guide," Rod Parsley, believes America's
               founding mission is to destroy Islam, which he calls a
               "false religion." McCain sought the political support of
               right-wing preacher John Hagee, who believes Hurricane
               Katrina was God's punishment for gay rights and called
               the Catholic Church "the Antichrist" and a "false cult."9


           I'm glad that McCain acknowledges the religious right.


       I'm sure you are glad, but what's with these odd-ball preacher's
       he's been associating himself with?  That's definitely a minus
       for me.


           As for some of what is said here, you need to take the plank
           out of Obama's eye first.  Heh, heh.


       Obam's Rev. Wright is a big minus for Obama.


   While I won't vote for Obama, I don't hold it against him that his
   friends, or even spiritual fathers, are wackos.  I myself have
   people, even some who have greatly influenced me in a strong
   positive manner, who are also total wackos in some aspects.


Ditto on not holding it against him, or for that matter, others associated with other candidates.
Frankly, "guilt by association" is something very easy to get caught up in if people aren't careful.

And more then that, Obama has repeatedly and clearly repudiated the views that make Wright a wacko.  But that doesn't mean that Obama has to disrespect him.

Mel Gibson had a similar issue because his father was prominently anti-semitic.  When Mel was asked about it in an interview, he replied "please, he's my father."


On McCain:  Didn't know about his recent environmental record!  Sounds like another flip-flop.
Maybe he'll be Swift-boated like Kerry was   :)

Kerry wasn't Swift-boated because he was a flip-flopper.



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