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On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Vern Green wrote:
Do you have good health insurance? I'm surprised that they didn't do a
more thorough workup. Did they do any cytogenetic analysis? In this
case they can go straight to chromosome 12 (12q24.1) and look for
mutations in the TBX5 gene. I would have thought that cytogenetic
analysis would always be ordered when idiopathic heart defects are
seen, but it isn't my area.
Yeah, I actually do have some good insurance. The only work up they did
was a chromosome test, the pediatrician called for that as he saw a
"*****" line on the palm of his hand. (I cannot remember what he called
it) The pediatrician thought he might have mild downs syndrome, but that
test came back negative. He did admit that the chomosome test would not
detect Holt-Oram.
That's right. Cytogenetic analysis is the chromosome test. I feel a
little better about them now that I know they already did that. They
didn't notice the hand problem though, even though they were looking at
the palms.
They should look into Holt-Oram for you. Apparently, there are strict
clinical diagnostic criteria that can almost always rule out kids who do
not have TBX5 mutations:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16183809
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17534187
I don't know a thing about "radial ray deformities", but it sounds like
that is thing to study before looking for TBX5 mutations. Or maybe the
nonopposable thumb *is* a radial ray defect.
Kids who meet strict criteria have identifiable TBX5 mutations about 1/2
to 3/4 of the time, but there might be more mutations yet to be discovered
that will increase that percentage:
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16917909
You might also notice another genetic trait. This one he and I clearly
share, as does my older son, my sister, and I think my mother. We all
had the crooked little finger. I do not think that trait is tied in
anyway to what we are seeing here with Holt-Oram, but maybe I am
wrong.
I don't know. Is it only on your left hand? Sometimes the same gene
will cause mild symptoms in some family members and more severe
pathologies in others.
No, it is on both hands, it is on both hands of my sister and my oldest
son as well. I remember this coming up in school, they talked about this
being a genetic trait, kind of like a widow's peak hair line. I was the
only kid in my biology class that had them and everyone was quite
surprised, I never had noticed it before then.
I think Jon found the answer on that one.
Mike
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