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- Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Holt-Oram Syndrome
- From: "Jonathan King" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Date: Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:25:02 -0700
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On Wed, Mar 12, 2008 at 10:08 PM, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Mar 2008, Vern Green wrote:
>
> > I promised to upload some pictures tonight, here they are on Picasa:
> >
> > http://picasaweb.google.com/hayvern/JeremySHands
>
> The left thumb is "nonopposable" and "finger like" -- those are the terms
> I'm seeing for that kind of thing in OMIM. Certainly there are not many
> known conditions that cause that trait and Holt-Oram is one of those
> conditions.
I don't know if there are really any others that also account for the
cardiac symptoms.
> Do you have good health insurance? I'm surprised that they didn't do a
> more thorough workup. Did they do any cytogenetic analysis? In this case
> they can go straight to chromosome 12 (12q24.1) and look for mutations in
> the TBX5 gene.
OK, but the gene is like 47 kilobp and there are lots of known point
mutations. They might have done a full karyotype, but that might not
have shown anything, there are lots of things that can cause heart
issues, and the hand issue, although visible, is pretty subtle.
Holt-Oram is a rare disorder.
> I would have thought that cytogenetic analysis would
> always be ordered when idiopathic heart defects are seen, but it isn't my
> area.
Nor mine, but see above. Do you have some specific test in mind here?
> > You might also notice another genetic trait. This one he and I clearly
> > share, as does my older son, my sister, and I think my mother. We all
> > had the crooked little finger. I do not think that trait is tied in
> > anyway to what we are seeing here with Holt-Oram, but maybe I am wrong.
>
> I don't know. Is it only on your left hand? Sometimes the same gene will
> cause mild symptoms in some family members and more severe pathologies in
> others.
Crooked little finger seems to be reported as a distinct disorder, but
I couldn't find it tied to any specific genes.
jking
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