Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Ron Paul supporters?

["Jim Locke" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I think the relatively young people that are really energized by Obama and are very opposed to the Iraq war will really turn out in large numbers to support him in future states like they did in Iowa.
If the older crowd would have been as energized as the younger one in Iowa, I don't think Hillary would have come in 9% behind Obama.
Granted, demographics especially w.r.t. age may very well have had to do with it.  In other words, maybe there's a relatively high percentage of the "younger" crowd in Iowa compared with the over 60 crowd.

It will be interesting to see.  Hillary must be counting on people for support and turn out that are at least accepting to her spins on things, and downright fake-sounding comments on the campaign trail.  Much of what she says or how she says it turns me right off.

Of course, experience and knowing the system are not necessarily bad things, by any means, I just think she really sounds fake and condescending, while Obama from my perspective really fires peple up and inspires people in a positive way.

On Jan 6, 2008 11:09 AM, Vern Green <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

Unless the war turns sour again before the election, I do not think it is going to be as important as everyone thinks it is.

 

Last night during the democratic debate they had a poll up on what items people think are the most important. It appears people are much more concerned about health care and the economy than they are the war in Iraq. Economy was 42% and health care was 34%. THe Iraq war was at 10%. I do not know how scientific it was, but those were telling numbers.

 

The only two candidates running that can prop themselves up on being anti-war is Obama and Paul. Obama has a shot at getting nominated though I still think he is going to lose to Hilary. Paul? Sorry, it is honorable that he has rabid supporters, but he is going to lose.

On Jan 6, 2008 6:06 AM, Jonathan King <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

On Jan 6, 2008 1:00 AM, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
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> On Sat, 5 Jan 2008, Jonathan King wrote:
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> > On Jan 5, 2008 7:58 PM, Brent Deterding < EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> I won't try to summarize the platform of Ron Paul (Republican
> >> candidate for President). Anyone else a supporter?
> >
> > Not me.
>
> Because...?

Because I disagree with probably 95% of the substantive things he
says. Honestly, people, he's an Old School States Right kind of guy
who thinks the world is a lot simpler than it really is. Anybody who
says "We need to abolish the IRS" is generally just foaming at the
mouth. He is ill-informed at best on issues in science and strikes me
as somebody who will show no flexibility, sophistication, or
understanding of such things in the future.

He is, was, and presumably always will be against the Iraq War, and he
is (admirably) very clear and consistent about this. Republican
candidates as a whole have put themselves in a very bad position on
this question so far (as a political point) because the war is
incredibly unpopular and they have to (in the primaries) fall over
each other praising our foreign policy in the primaries to get votes
from a "base" which is almost certainly too small (by itself) to get
them elected in November. Ron Paul has been a big beneficiary of that.

I will admit that I do have my prejudices here. I really do not think
there is much chance that a back-bench Texas Republican congressman is
likely to be the most qualified person to hold the office of the
presidency. That's just my prior. Nothing I have heard since does much
to advance his case with me.

And those, I hope, will be the last words I post on the subject.

jking


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