Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Iowa results

["Jim Locke" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Jan 4, 2008 11:18 AM, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

On Fri, 4 Jan 2008, Vern Green wrote:

> Right, and this is something that will likely come back and haunt Fred.
> I still like Fred, but I am also one of those odd Christians that do not
> think that government should be involved in this type of thing.
>
> There are a lot of people who do not agree with me.

I think abortion is probably #1 for Christian conservatives.  Some people
on this list might not know that I am an atheist whose sister is a
Christian conservative -- just thought I'd clarify that.

> I don't have a problem with Huckabee except for his stand on illegal
> immigration which is a little obscure and he has made some changes to it
> in recent months. He is still a better candidate that McCain or Guiliani
> and I am glad that he won in Iowa and Guiliani came in as low as he did,
> I am tired of hearing the media say that Guiliani had it all locked up.

Giuliani didn't even try to do anything with Iowa.  But how does that make
sense?  If he thought he'd lose there in the caucuses, I guess it makes
sense to let it go and concentrate on New Hampshire, but what does that
say about his chances if he wins the nomination?  I think he cannot win
the presidency, so I hope he wins the nomination!  ;-)

Similarly, I worry about Clinton.  Can she win the presidency?  I'm not
sure.  There is a lot not to like about her.  I think there are a few big
things in her past that may return to haunt her.  I also don't like some
of her ideas and I'd rather see Obama or Edwards in the White House.  An
Obama-Edwards ticket or Edwards-Obama ticket would be ideal for me.

Ditto, Mike.  I like this ticket as well.  Ideally if name recognition were not as important, I'd like to see Richardson or possibly Mark Warner (that the correct name? - former Virginia governor), on the ticket, but Obama and Edwards sounds cool too.

Interesting, I starting liking Obama's chances even more when Kucinich said to support Obama is he wasn't viable, and then rumors of Biden and Richardson saying the same thing came.

Kucinich I think was/is like a Ralph Nader, where a lot of real progressives wanted him first, but he didn't have the name recognition or stature to get momentum, plus his ideas are way too progressive for the U.D. right now, unfortunately.

My point about him is even though Kucinich got very little support, I think him saying to make Obama second choice might have pulled some people away from Edwards, who ironically, Nader said he might support recently.

Mike

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