MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Sliming Graeme Frost
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Sliming Graeme Frost
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On Fri, 12 Oct 2007, Rick wrote:

So, to sum this up, because of one child, we should turn over the trillions of dollars Americans pay for health care to the government so that they can dole it out?

No, it was supposed to cover millions of children. The one child is an example of how such a program can help a poor family.



Oddly, I listen to a fair amount of right-wing propoganda, I've this is the first mention of Graeme Frost I've heard. What has been said to smear the kid?

See the article below. The smearing is more of his family than of the kid himself.



Lastly, I tend to align with Scott here. I'm vehemently opposed to socialized health care for adults, but would be fully supportive of socializing health care for children under the age of 18 *if* it were mandatory (i.e., every kid, not just the poor ones).

OK. I'm definitely in favor of some amount of government-funded health care for everyone. For example, vaccinations should be freely available to anyone living in or even visiting the US. There are many other small things that are highly cost effective to provide. The thing we cannot afford to do is to offer the most expensive and highly experimental treatments to everyone. There has to be a limit on what the government will provide. If there is no limit on expenditures, we'll be robbed blind!


Another thing to worry about -- my insurance company was billed $3500 for my daughter's recent hospital stay (she's fine), but the hospital said that the cost was $20,000. They aren't charging me a thing. The point is, the hospital would charge an uninsured person $20,000 for the same services that it charges my insurance company $3,500 for. The insurance company has a lot of power and can force lower rates. So the uninsured are rendered powerless and the hospitals will screw them, badly, or not treat them at all.

Mike


On Fri, 2007-10-12 at 11:41 -0500, Mike Miller wrote:
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10/12/opinion/12krugman.html

N.Y. Times
October 12, 2007

Op-Ed Columnist

Sliming Graeme Frost

By PAUL KRUGMAN

Two weeks ago, the Democratic response to President Bush's weekly radio
address was delivered by a 12-year-old, Graeme Frost. Graeme, who along
with his sister received severe brain injuries in a 2004 car crash and
continues to need physical therapy, is a beneficiary of the State
Children's Health Insurance Program. Mr. Bush has vetoed a bipartisan bill
that would have expanded that program to cover millions of children who
would otherwise have been uninsured.


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Rick

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wasn't good cereal. But it was better than a gut fulla led."


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