MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS][RELIGION] Billy Graham and the Presidents
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS][RELIGION] Billy Graham and the Presidents
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On Sun, 2 Sep 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

Dash it all - I will bite.

I could tell you were going to crack!


But not to argue your point, just to educate you on a bit of theology.

The notion that God chooses presidents has nothing to do with whether the presidents pay lip service to serving God or not. Rather it is standard Augustinian/Calvinist theology that states that all things that happen are according to God's will, and serve his purpose.

The show didn't indicate that God's choice was motivated by the candidates' conduct, speeches or beliefs. Billy Graham was surprised and disappointed when Carter beat Ford -- he'd been working mostly with Ford -- but he'd also befriended Carter years earlier.



That all authority comes from God is clearly stated in Romans 13:1. This applies even to the most wicked leadership such as Nero or Saddam Hussein.

Apparently, this is what the Bible says in Romans 13:1:

    Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there
    is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities
    that exist have been established by God.

Putting that together with what you are saying, this means that in Christian theology, God gave Hitler his authority and by following Hitler, the Nazi soldiers were following the will of God. That's pretty sick and crazy in my book. I know there are plenty of good things in Christianity, but this kind of authoritarianism isn't one of them.


See also 2 Kings 19:25 (and the surrounding verses to understand the context).

That's a little harder to understand!

Mike

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