Email address obfuscation in effect -- please
click here to turn it off.
[
Date Prev][
Date Next][
Thread Prev][
Thread Next][
Date Index][
Thread Index]
- To: "MLUG Off-Topic Discussion" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Debunking 9/11 Debunking: An Answer to Popular Mechanics and Other Defenders of the Official Conspiracy Theory
- From: "Jonathan King" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Date: Sat, 7 Jul 2007 23:15:56 -0400
- Delivery-date: Sat, 07 Jul 2007 22:16:15 -0500
- Dkim-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=LWKPj7dE47UQH9pvoPrgkCsjTDjsDmD7YxErT/Gsfygnz4WyVxXpHrI3J6Rz8wKCsdNWbkjcBJMkxrZmUHoL/fC//hfERfIGFaD40aGVvGm+mdx4+GRUJJ5mZNkpXeiq4cJhU1pkAVBbZWzOtGXp9xUSU0nBqYgFfxBuFjQmgCA=
- Domainkey-signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=beta; h=received:message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; b=GthokSixZqoRIViMoWempnkjeyUFwwr2GclnTA7Ojb1BGwauVQC5I+2kK/C9Ilvy68BkzjXNmC5yWiKOrN9elXmHk4bjln6aT/S/sUUBIaYjXDy22+TSU1dWDxv4kmTyNOpYSjH7bxDlL9RFGBkxQR+kxm9pJjts5id8Y+LAooA=
- Envelope-to: EMAIL:PROTECTED
- In-reply-to: <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- References: <EMAIL:PROTECTED> <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Reply-to: MLUG Off-Topic Discussion <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Sender: EMAIL:PROTECTED
On 7/7/07, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
Mike Miller wrote:
> I happened to see this book in the book store this afternoon and it does
> look intriguing...
>
> http://www.amazon.com/Debunking-11-Mechanics-Defenders-Conspiracy/dp/156656686X
>
> Every customer review on the first page (all 13) gives it five stars and
> it has 4.5 stars on average. So maybe it is good.
>
> Mike
The only conspiracy I spent any time looking into was the theory that
the NASA moon landings were faked. I found this conspiracy theory
extremely unconvincing. I got involved in a discussion on the "multiple
shadows" and it was suggested that maybe the light from the earth would
provide another light source. I looked into it and found out that the
earth would appear four times as big on the moon as the moon appears on
the earth.
Well, four times the diameter, anyway. And that's important because we
are now talking about something that has sixteen times the apparent
surface area, with a pretty high albedo. So I'm guessing that
reflected light from the earth would not be a trivial thing.
It also made me realize that the view of the earth from the
moon must be extremely beautiful and stunning - no wonder the astronauts
described as a beautiful jewel.
Indeed. I think it's also important that the moon has no atmosphere,
so the earth shines out of pitch black even in the daytime.
Also, my favorite "who killed Kennedy" theory is that the whole thing
was masterminded and executed by a single mentally ill man who shot
Kennedy from the top floor of a textbook warehouse.
Yeah, I think that's the most likely story. But I think it's easier to
understand Kennedy conspiracy theories more than some others because
the mentally deranged man had, among other things, defected to the
Soviet Union and then come back, and the man who killed the assassin
had fairly clear mob connections.
I saw the two towers collapse live on TV. The whole thing seemed
extremely real to me, and I found the manner in which the towers
collapsed extremely plausible.
I'm really not sure what people find implausible about the tower
collapse scenario. I have heard stuff like "no skyscraper has ever
collapsed due to heat from a fire", but this ignores two important
facts. First, the heat from this fire was ludicrously higher than
anything you're likely to see if you don't fly several tons of jet
fuel into a building and therefore start multiple intense fires on
multiple floors simultaneously. Second, the design of the Trade Center
towers made them especially vulnerable to this kind of attack.
In any case, the real problem with the vast majority of conspiracy
theory stories is the implausibility of keeping (for decades) the
kinds of massive secrets that are usually required for the theories to
"work".
jking
_______________________________________________
discussion mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion