MLUG: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] News Alert: Bush Commutes Libby'sPrison Sentence
RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] News Alert: Bush Commutes Libby'sPrison Sentence
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On Tue, 3 Jul 2007, Spurling, Shannon wrote:

The reason he mentioned Clinton's perjury charge is because it's the
same charge leveled aginst two people. The cases are different, but it's
the same indictment about not telling the truth in a court of law.

I understand now what he was getting at. Of course, the Libby case means that Libby has successfully concealed the truth from us forever and the Clinton case meant nothing then and it still means nothing.



One is that people have the strange idea that Libby was protecting Cheney. Apparently they were able to corroborate the events that were counter to Libby's statement. That means they should be able to prove or disprove charges aginst whom ever he was protecting, because they can prove the falacy of his statements beyond a shadow of a doubt.

I don't follow that argument.


He's useless as a scapegoat, and his charges, counter to what Obama says in his offical statement, have nothing to do with the revelation of the covert agents identity.

Which leads to my second observation about this whole mess. His conviction had nothing to do with the revelation of Plames identity. It only hinged on the fact that he made statements that were factualy dishonest, period. Nothing to do with an outed identity. Nothing.

He was lying about *when* he told people about Plame. He was going around scheduling meetings with people to tell them that Wilson's wife was a CIA operative. He lied about when those meetings occurred. Why was he telling people about Plame?? What am I getting wrong here?



And another point I have seen out in Internet land hinges on the fact that Bush said he would not interfear with the apeals process. If you read his statement, that is still his intent. The only reason he commuted the prison time was so that Libby could remain free while seeking his apeal. The judge forced the issue by refusing his request to stay out of jail while the apeal was in process. It's not an unusual request. IIRC Martha Stewart and a lot of other high profile cases that involved small time white collar crime have done this.

Do you mean that Libby may still go to prison if the appeal fails?


Making sure people are honest in court is a very importiant goal for prosecuting violations like this. Problem is, were his statements due to not understanding what was going on or not remembering things clearly or in the right order. That is the question and it's a lot less of an issue than what the news people want you to think.

The clever way to lie in court is to say that you don't remember.

Mike

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