Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Corporate Politics suck!

["Vern Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I guess I am of a different mindset than other people. If I think someone is being an asshole, then I will not work for them. I don't HAVE to work for them, there are other jobs out there. Like I said though, I don't think I have ever really worked for someone that was so blatant about it. I have worked for people that have done things that have made me quit. I have also worked for people whom I do not like their personality and quit, but I don't think I have ever worked for anyone that I would outright call an asshole.

 

On 5/9/07, Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

My experience is the opposite.  I come across a lot of people in higher
management who try to be an ******.  I used to share the same naive
belief that you did, because those of us who strive to be decent
naturally assume that of others.  But a lot of bad experiences have now
convinced me of the opposite.

Vern Green wrote:
> Call me naive, I have a hard time believing that there are people out
> there that consciously approach each day trying to be an asshole.
>
> I think we are all motivated by our perceptions of things. Some people
> have a higher tolerance for personalities than others do. For
> instance, I have a very hard time with people who do not show common
> sense. If I send out a bill of materials, and in the QTY field it says
> 2 computers are needed, I do not expect to get a phone call asking how
> many servers I need for that bill of materials.
>
> When this happens two or three times, I am going to start appearing
> like an asshole to you as I very sternly and appropriately tell you
> "Look in the QTY field." Am I truly being an asshole to you? By the
> way this is not an extreme case, this happened to me recently and
> ultimately the employee was "let go" because of it. Now the key
> difference is that it was not only a problem with me, but others like
> me complained about the same thing.
>
> Another issue is the negativity your peers put out there. When the
> employees start complaining about a manager between themselves, they
> feel empowered by numbers. The negativity continues to grow. This
> leads to employees treating the manager differently, even your opinion
> of the person will change, it effects respect for the position. This
> is a situation the employee can never win, you will be let go in this
> circumstance.
>
> Its best not to get into these situations, when employees start bad
> mouthing other people it is best to excuse yourself from those
> discussions.
>
> I am not saying these apply to Jennifer in any way, these are just
> some of the things I have seen.
>
>
>
>
> On 5/9/07, *Mike Miller* <EMAIL:PROTECTED
> <mailto: EMAIL:PROTECTED>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, 9 May 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
>
>     > But the company has to distinguish between a genuinely rotten
>     boss, and
>     > a boss who just happens to play hardball, or an employee who has
>     genuine
>     > grievances as opposed to a difficult employee.
>
>     There you go.  That's a big problem.  But I still think the exit
>     interview
>     can help a lot.
>
>     Mike
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