Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Corporate Politics suck!

[Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

My experience is the opposite.  I come across a lot of people in higher 
management who try to be an ******.  I used to share the same naive 
belief that you did, because those of us who strive to be decent 
naturally assume that of others.  But a lot of bad experiences have now 
convinced me of the opposite.

Vern Green wrote:
> Call me naive, I have a hard time believing that there are people out 
> there that consciously approach each day trying to be an asshole.
>  
> I think we are all motivated by our perceptions of things. Some people 
> have a higher tolerance for personalities than others do. For 
> instance, I have a very hard time with people who do not show common 
> sense. If I send out a bill of materials, and in the QTY field it says 
> 2 computers are needed, I do not expect to get a phone call asking how 
> many servers I need for that bill of materials.
>  
> When this happens two or three times, I am going to start appearing 
> like an asshole to you as I very sternly and appropriately tell you 
> "Look in the QTY field." Am I truly being an asshole to you? By the 
> way this is not an extreme case, this happened to me recently and 
> ultimately the employee was "let go" because of it. Now the key 
> difference is that it was not only a problem with me, but others like 
> me complained about the same thing.
>  
> Another issue is the negativity your peers put out there. When the 
> employees start complaining about a manager between themselves, they 
> feel empowered by numbers. The negativity continues to grow. This 
> leads to employees treating the manager differently, even your opinion 
> of the person will change, it effects respect for the position. This 
> is a situation the employee can never win, you will be let go in this 
> circumstance.
>  
> Its best not to get into these situations, when employees start bad 
> mouthing other people it is best to excuse yourself from those 
> discussions.
>  
> I am not saying these apply to Jennifer in any way, these are just 
> some of the things I have seen.
>  
>
>
>  
> On 5/9/07, *Mike Miller* <EMAIL:PROTECTED 
> <mailto:EMAIL:PROTECTED>> wrote:
>
>     On Wed, 9 May 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
>
>     > But the company has to distinguish between a genuinely rotten
>     boss, and
>     > a boss who just happens to play hardball, or an employee who has
>     genuine
>     > grievances as opposed to a difficult employee.
>
>     There you go.  That's a big problem.  But I still think the exit
>     interview
>     can help a lot.
>
>     Mike
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