MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] is it possible to define "a lie"?
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] is it possible to define "a lie"?
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Mike Miller wrote:
On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

That's a little bit unfair. Certainly his loud-mouthed style helps him a great deal. While it is something that you or I might not like so much, most people seem to love it. However, I see it more as a stylistic issue more than something substantive.


But it's that style that sets him apart and gets him the attention that makes his employer the big advertising revenues.


I do think that he knows his stuff. Even if he doesn't know his stuff to the last detail, he certainly knows a lot more than most people.


He definitely knows a lot of stuff. I don't think he knows more stuff than other people who do similar work. So I don't think it's "knowing stuff" that makes him popular and famous, but having that knowledge is essential.


Reading the first web page you cite, the criticisms, except for the first and the second to last, really are a matter of interpretation. So for example, with the Syria Accountability Act, you cannot really judge its effectiveness by the fact that Syria opposed it (because they would oppose anything like this), nor from the fact that Rice praised it (I have noticed that she can be extraordinarily tactful, only sparingly criticizing when she absolutely has to). And mixing a sponsor with a co-sponsor really can't be regarded as an inaccuracy, more a matter of language. And the last criticism of this mediamatters page really comes across as very disingenuous, definitely exposing a liberal bias on their part.


For this last thing, do you mean "Detention and interrogation of terrorism suspects" on this page?:

http://mediamatters.org/items/200501250001

No, thta was the second to last item, where I said that it really did look like O'Reilly was in error. The last item, I thought, was the failure of the UN in the food for oil program. It distinguished the UN itself from the member nations in assigning blame. It came across to me as typical "administration speak" when they pass the buck.



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