Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] is it possible to define "a lie"?

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Thu, 1 Mar 2007, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:

> Mike Miller wrote:

> > So you look into it and you find the he is "not being quite the totally 
> > up front guy he claims to be" which is euphemistic for "O'Reilly's 
> > persona is all a charade," or even "O'Reilly seems to be a liar."
>
> Yes, but a great many people engage in this kind of deception about who 
> they really are, and many of them do so unconsciously, even to the point 
> of self-deception.  It is by no means clear to me that O'Reilly does 
> this on purpose.  It is rather like bias in the media - it is quite 
> likely that at least some of it is there by mistake.
>
> I am sure that some people do it in a cold calculating fashion, and 
> others don't.  But which O'Reilly does is hard to say.
>
> But it is also, to some extent, immaterial.  Really the proper way to 
> assess O'Reilly is to listen to the message, and analyse that, not to 
> try to analyse the messenger.

Well, our topic was O'Reilly.  If you watch O'Reilly you will see that one 
of his favorite topics also is O'Reilly.  If you want to listen to the 
message, be my guest.  I'm not very interested in his message -- why 
should I be?  But if he has an important idea, and someone tells me about 
it, I'm happy to listen.

By the way, did you know that Bill O'Reilly's dad paid for his 
private-school education and that O'Reilly earned an M.A. in Broadcast 
Journalism from Boston University in 1975 and then an M.A. in Public 
Administration from Harvard University's John F. Kennedy School of 
Government in 1995?

He's a Harvard man!  So maybe I should take his supposed liberal 
credentials more seriously.

Mike

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