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- Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [politics] Hilllary - Oil Profits
- From: "Vern Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>
- Date: Mon, 5 Feb 2007 00:50:06 -0800
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Well, if you make enough money to have a retirement fund, then you need to pay more in taxes so I can have a retirement fund too.
On 2/2/07, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Feb 2007, Jerry Gamblin wrote:
>> My understanding is that windfall profits have always been taxed in
>> special ways and the thing that was unusual last year is that congress
>> voted not to tax the oil companies. Why didn't they do it.
>
> If these profits were really windfall profits it would be different. The
> market is an open market so calling it a windfall profit tax is wrong,
> if you want to call it an excess profit tax that would be different.
>
>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windfall_profits_tax
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Excess_profit_tax
I'll look at that.
>> Oil is very special. It involves all kinds of complex agreements among
>> nations and the US government is *very* heavily involved in maintaining
>> international relations so that the oil companies can do their
>> business. This "maintenance work" includes, but is not limited to,
>> warfare. It is quite alright for the US governmnent to limit oil
>> company profits.
>
> The US Government has worked very hard to make the Higher Education
> System in America one of the most respected in the world. Would it be OK
> for them to Tax your earnings at a higher rate since you have profited
> from that?
They made me pay. That wasn't enough?
>> Republicans are supported by energy industry sponsors, so it is no
>> wonder that they don't wish to limit corporate profits -- the money is
>> partly theirs. Is that corruption? Maybe, in a way, but it is not
>> illegal, unfortunately. It is very damaging to our country and to the
>> world.
>
> Have you checked your IRA's and retirement funds? Most retirement funds
> are heavily invested in the energy market so you could be banking your
> future on the same people who back Republicans!
That's quite possible. It can get worse. Check this one out:
http://www.vicefund.com/
They're doing well:
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=vicex
Mike
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