Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] I'm in a good mood, for whatever reason...

["Christian M. Cepel" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

I only recently discovered that I've been using the wrong sized phillips heads for years for screws.....  if anything I see that as a problem with phillips... the fact that you can use the next size smaller, or even two sizes smaller and it's 'forgiving' seems more of a problem.  I only recently figured out that that really fatty phillips (#3 ?) sockets along every single nanometer of surface and I can drive 4" deck screws w/o them stripping out.

Vern Green wrote:

The square head fits better on the screw tip. It aligns better as well. The screw has less tendency to fall off and with the square hole, they have less tendency to strip out. They also hold better for starting. I know you have had instances where you are starting a screw and the screw bends over as you are trying to get it started. This usually ends up with the screw tip burying itself into whatever material you are trying to screw into. Square head screws do not do that as easily.

 

They do tend to snap off easier, that is because with a standard phillips head, the screw tip tends to jump from the slots easier with resistance. So when the screw meets resistance that it can't withstand, the screw tip usually loses grip before the screw breaks. The square head screws are pretty tight and they do not easily slip, so when you hit that resistance with these, the heads tend to snap off.

 

The easiest way to avoid that is to use a screw gun or a drill that has a clutch setting.

 

On 11/28/06, Jonathan King <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

On 11/28/06, Christian M. Cepel <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> Granted it's only limited trial at this point, but yes.  The only
> drawback is breaking off the head.  It never slips, chatters or strips.

I had noticed the chatter-free thing. the strip-resistance makes
sense, then, too. Are you saying that heads tend to break off more
easily, or just that this is the only thing that can go wrong?

> I've not had a chance to put some in, weather-em, carelessly use a bit
> for a few years to smooth of the edges, etc.....

Understood. You're not IKEA or something. :-)

jking

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