Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [Politics] Amendment 2 ads and lies

["Vern Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Actually, I can speak to what goes through that decision as I deal with the ramifications of such a decision everyday.

 

I also dealt twice with the recollection of those experiences when my wife went through two miscarriages and D&C procedures. What might have been a difficult decision for her to make years ago, certainly passed on an expensive pricetag to a 41 year old woman some 26 years later.

 

My issue with abortion, and the only issue I really have with it, is that women, like my wife, are not properly counseled. Unplanned Parenthood certainly did not do anything 26 some odd years ago to help my wife through the decision and it is something she deals with on a DAILY basis. We are lucky enough to have two wonderful children already, we would like to have a third, but the memories of that ill-fated decision, heightened by two miscarriages has proven to be too much of a strain on her. Our attempts for a third child have ceased.

 

Jennifer, I don't normally say this to anyone, but the pro-abortion crowd, of which I am a part, have one serious issue to overcome. This issue is the same one the evolution crowd has to overcome. That issue is the arrogance that is portrayed. Both crowds have this arrogant rightousness about them that does not allow another viewpoint to be heard. No matter where that viewpoint is.

 

My personal stance on the abortion issue is not one of "woman's rights" to make decisions about her body, in my opinion, a woman loses that right when she decides to participate. My stance is that I feel it is a "greater" sin to bring a child into this world that is not going to be properly cared for. Society can not afford to outlaw abortion, as we are paying a very high price in our population's poor choices about sexual conduct as it is.

 

On 11/5/06, Jennifer Dozar <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:

Leave Abortion out of this debate! This is not an issue dealing with
your whole stem cell research and treatments. that's what this thread
has mainly been debated on. And you do not even begin to understand what
a woman goes through when deciding on abortion as an option for a
situation. And Do not TRY to understand. And the only thing that your
faith may offer is possibly forgiveness of ourselves and from your god.


On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:38:37AM -0600, Christian M. Cepel wrote:
>
>
> Mike Miller wrote:
> > of it -- having a D&C, which is like having an abortion.  It is
> >unpleasant and I'm sure that women don't enter the decision to abort
> >without very careful consideration.
> I'd very much like to know what led you to this conclusion.  Would it be
> all the turmoil of emotions and pressures they are under at the time
> that aids them in making a decision that they might have before or since
> insisted they'd make completely differently if presented with the same
> scenario.  Would it be the panic and desperation of being a single
> parent, or being decried by highschool friends or parents and family and
> church group.  Would it be the fear of having a very involved adult
> physical and emotional and financial experience by a body and person
> that really wasn't mature and old enough to make the proper decision on
> whether or not to engage in the adult activities that resulted in the
> decision needing to be made.  Somehow I'm thinking a lot of the 'careful
> consideration' on the decision of whether or not to abort can be pretty
> summed up in the statement, "Oh my God, what the hell do I do?  My life
> is over.  Help me.  I'm not ready.  My life is ruined.  Just make it go
> away."
>
> I really wonder in the discussion of the procedure if the staff at
> Unplanned Parenthood don't downplay the unpleasant aspect of the
> procedure and D&C.  Somehow even if they didn't, I'm very doubtful that
> fear of the procedure plays much of ANYTHING in the decision process...
> unless perhaps they've experienced it previously.   I will remind you
> that previous to RvW desperation led uncounted women through history to
> allow people to root around with coat hangers, acid, sticks, etc....
> often at the cost of their own lives.  I can just see the privacy forms
> and right to refuse notifications and consent to treat forms the girls
> used to have to sign when going to the local witch doctor, apothecary,
> or back alley abortionist after having read the disclosure of risk
> factors involved in the procedure.
>
> Is it any wonder that it's becoming a growing awareness and treatment
> field of caring for women who have made the decision and then later
> spend the rest of their lives racked with guilt, regret and even despair.
>
> _______________________________________________
> discussion mailing list
> EMAIL:PROTECTED
> http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion

--
--
Jennifer Dozar
http://seul.org/~jennifer/osschools/
*******************************************
ALL YOUR BASEPAIR ARE BELONG TO US!


_______________________________________________
discussion mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion

-- 
Thanks
F Vernon Green 
_______________________________________________
discussion mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion