RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what waterboarding looks like [Politics]

[Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Hargus, Diana wrote:

> `(b) Authority for Military Commissions Under This Chapter- The 
> President is authorized to establish military commissions under this 
> chapter for offenses triable by military commission as provided in this 
> chapter. (from HR 6166 at http://thomas.loc.gov ; the links are dynamic 
> and don't stay pointed to where they are supposed to point)

So there'd be no oversight -- it's the President fully in control of the 
whole thing.  Extreme case:  Bush says that John Kerry is an enemy 
combatant, Bush has Kerry imprisoned, Kerry is brought before a "Military 
Commission" hand picked by Bush, Kerry is not allowed to hear the evidence 
against him, the Commission finds Kerry guilty, and Kerry has no further 
recourse.  So what in the *law* would prevent Bush from doing this?  We 
don't want to pass a series of laws that basically say "a military coup is 
now legal in the US at the discretion of the President."

Of course, no President would pick out a single Senator and do as I just 
stated.  He would do it to all of the senators at once (the ones who 
weren't in on it anyway).  Same for the Supreme Court.  If this sounds 
crazy and far-fetched to you, fine, but think about other nations -- it's 
common there.  You just have to brainwash the military and you're all set. 
Once you've eliminated most of the opposition in the House, Senate and 
Supreme Court and declared martial law, you rewrite the constitution, 
control the media, and you're golden.


> While searching for the full text of the bill, I came across this gem 
> they were trying to get through:
>
> Universal National Service Act of 2006 (Introduced in House)

If everyone was required to serve in the military, how many wars do you 
think we'd have?  I'm sure that's what Rangel is up to, or he's trying to 
make a point -- the rich make the poor serve for them, the rich don't 
serve.

Mike

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