MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what waterboarding looks like [Politics]
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what waterboarding looks like [Politics]
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Mike Miller wrote:
On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Christian M. Cepel wrote:

I can see that you've really thought this through carefully.


Though this statement is made in sarcasm, I actually have.

To me, these people have no rights whatsoever. They forfeited those rights when they engaged in terrorism.



Here's the part that I don't think you are thinking through carefully: Who are "these people?" You say "they engaged in terrorism," but that is not how the government will define "these people" -- they are defined as having been *accused* of engaging in terrorism. The difference is not all that subtle and it is the key to understanding most objections to the proposed policy. An accusation of terrorism cannot provide a reasonable basis for taking someone's rights away. We need to review such claims against a person in a hearing.

Even in WWII, captured enemy soldiers who did not get Geneva convention rights were tried by a military tribunal. Is this wrong?



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