MLUG: RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what waterboarding looks like [Politics]
RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] what waterboarding looks like [Politics]
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On Mon, 2 Oct 2006, Hargus, Diana wrote:

And neither are they evil.

Some of them are evil.

Define evil please. Or can we use the Wikipedia defition?

What I mean is that some politicians care only about advancing their personal power at any cost. They have no real ethics at all. I don't know who they are, but I believe they exist. I don't know their party affiliation, but if I were such a person, I would be more attracted to the Republicans -- but, if I lived in a Democrat state, I'd be a Democrat. That's my perspective. My definition of evil is different from some, I'm sure.



(1) does torture work to extract information?
    Some experts say 'no' -- that should give you pause, at least

Sorry Mike, but but no points for this one, as there are "experts" that will say anything you pay them for, a la "global warming does not exist"

Are there any experts who say that torture works?


So drowning you to unconsciousness, then resuscitating you and repeating it, over and over and over again -- that would not be torture because it doesn't destroy your "body elements". If we were to apply electric shock to your genitals, but not enough to burn the skin off, that would not be torture.

If I don't permanently scar/injure/disfigure you, but break your mind into little pieces, essentially killing what makes you "you", does that not count as torture, if not death (identity death)?

Thinking along these lines - Can they use hallucinogenic drugs on the prisoners?


Mike

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