Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] last days

[Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Mike Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
>
> > Mike Miller wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Stephen Montgomery-Smith wrote:
> > >
> > > > Bias should also be considered by how the matter is presented 
> > > > contextually.  Furthermore the tone (e.g. "experts" as opposed to 
> > > > "supposed experts") plays a very significant role.
> > >
> > >
> > > Maybe you can show me a published example of the use of "supposed 
> > > experts" or "so-called experts."
> >
> >
> > Or then again, maybe I can't.
> >
> > What's your point?
>
>
>
> That you and someone else (Vern or Christian), and many other Christian 
> fundamentalist conservatives, are constantly complaining about bias in 
> the news media.  These claims of bias usually come as attacks on entire 
> sources of news, like the top US newspapers or an entire broadcasting 
> network.  It's almost always presented as "I felt they were biased" and 
> this then leads, always or almost always, to the conclusion that we 
> should not get our news from those sources.
>
> Today I'm being told by you and someone else (either Vern or Christian) 
> that some of our finest papers are using terms like "supposed experts" 
> and "so-called experts" to dismiss legitimate experts out of hand, or to 
> taint the claims of these experts.  I am skeptical that this is 
> happening so I am asking you to tell me where you've seen it.  I read 
> these papers all the time, but I do mostly focus on science news, but I 
> never see this kind of thing.

Yes, I was getting my example from Vern or Christian.  You found my 
source precisely.  Well done.

Why don't you ask whoever it was for their source?

I used it as an illustration of the kinds of things that could be done, 
and I think in context was clearly not meant as an actual example.

Now if your question is about "this sort of thing", I am somewhat sure 
that I have given examples of this sort of thing before, and I'm sure 
that I'll see it again.  Next time I'm reading the Guardian I'll see 
some more (because they go for this kind of thing big time) and I'll 
hopefully remember to pass it on to this group.

(Incidently I'm not saying the right wing press doesn't do it either.)


_______________________________________________
discussion mailing list
EMAIL:PROTECTED
http://mlug.missouri.edu/mailman/listinfo/discussion