MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Perpetual Motion Machine?
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] Perpetual Motion Machine?
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That is what you hear, and that would be a perpetual motion machine, but you are talking about "free energy machines" which I was assuming can have energy input as long as that is free (as in beer) -- e.g., using the Earth's rotation or something like that. It is impossible for a machine to put out more energy than it takes in unless the machine is slowly disappearing (using itself as fuel).
It can collect energy that otherwise would go wasted without requiring a fuel to be replenished. I'd agree that under very strict definition this isn't perpetual motion but it fits the average persons definition and many people would sneer at the device just because of that.

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