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No mention is made to the fact that a good deal of redundancy exists due
to delivery/deployment methods. X% of those are in bunkers. X% of
those are in space, X% of those are in the hulls of nuclear submarines
(and X% of those are down half the time for refit and other necessary
reasons). X% of those are in aircraft delivery systems. I expect that
there are some in other types of delivery systems/bomb formats so people
like Kurt Russel can blow up other planets.
It's childish to assert that anything can be boiled down to a simple
number like that. Just in submarines alone, if you have 24 launch tubes
on a vessel, you have to have a huge redundancy to account for
submarines being taken out in time of war (A topic in the movie Crimson
Tide) and the US being left unable to assert. You have to account for
range both for time-on-target and service range of the delivery
system. You also have to account for the need of the US to have
nuclear capable launch platforms in different tactical theaters.
I doubt seriously that if one were to see this 'number' broken down into
'areas' along with reasoning, things would make a lot more sense and not
seem as unreasonable as they seem to suggest.
Of course, I could give a darn what they think anyways. America is a
world super power. Like it or not, if falls on our shoulders to be the
world police... of course I don't mean actively by this, but passively
by the world knowing that we don't tolerate/encourage tyranny, and that
we can assert that position if necessary, and that we have the firepower
to not be removed from the equation by those who would rather see no
standards of human rights, fair play, etc exist in the world.
These people stupidly believe that if we were to go Nuclear free, that
America wouldn't suddenly be the target of every despotic horrific
country out there.
I also am just hoping beyond hope that their number is wrong. I hope
it's a lot higher and that we've not disclosed are full arsenal. I have
a pretty high opinion of America as a force of good in the world, and I
am TOTALLY ok with a double standard whereby countries like Iran, North
Korea, PRC, France, any South/Central American, any middle-eastern
country would have to have full disclosure and oversight.
I only have respect in general for three countries on this planet.
England (and Ireland and the Commonwealth), Australia, and the USA.
These can be trusted to do the right thing almost hands down every
time. Yes, people will argue that England used to be a tyrannical
imperial country, but they've since changed and atoned for their history.
I'm one of those stupid conservatives that loves this country and is
proud of it despite numerous foibles that are unavoidable in any
country. I fully believe that 95% of the time our moral compass if
pointed dead on....
Jerry Gamblin wrote:
I would like to think that we can ignore the fact that this guy might be
considered "a liberal" (horrors!) and all agree that he is right about
this cost (assuming his numbers are right) being unnecessary and
wasteful.
I see no benefit in maintaining a vast arsenal of nukes. There never
was
a benefit to having that many of them, but people thought, quite
wrongly,
that we should have many more than our enemies had. It seems likely
to me
that the real reason for having so many bombs was that someone was
selling
them, and someone in government had a reason to give money to the
seller.
He states as a fact that only "6 nukes" would be needed to blow up all
of Russia. I would like to see some facts to back that up. According
to the CIA the land mass of russia is 16,995,800 sq km.
16,995,800/6= 2,832,633
My guess is that he was just talking out of his ass because I doubt we
have a nuke that can blow up three million square kilometers. I don't
disagree with him that we have more than enough nukes and they should
be dismantling some of them but starting your ad with a lie isnt a
good way to get people with half a brain on your side.
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