Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [RELIGION] Defining a Christian act... was Disowning Conservative Politics, Evangelical Pastor Rattles Flock

["Christian M. Cepel" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

This makes no sense.   My belief on absolute moral law has absolutely to 
do with what the world consensus is. It wouldn't matter if the entire 
world agreed or disagreed with me.  It wouldn't have one iota to do with 
whether there is a good reason for me to believe what I believe.

Really Mike.  What are you talking about?   I must be quite stupid 
because what you're saying makes absolutely no sense to me whatsoever.   
Why you would make such an argument, or even attempt to is beyond my ken.

As far as the cart before the horse argument, we have completely 
different belief structures and could go around and around on this 
argument till Christ comes (how fun to get to work that in :)  ), and 
we'd be no closer to either convincing each other, or discovering any 
sort of significant 'truth'.  I could argue that I don't 'chose' to 
believe in an absolute God, but rather that I, being created in the 
image of God have a natural pre-disposition to belief in my creator and 
perhaps some ingrained knowledge of his morality.  I could also argue 
that you do as well, but you chose to suppress these truths.



Mike Miller wrote:
> On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Christian M. Cepel wrote:
>
> > By this, the opposition loves to point out that Christians are:
> > a) intolerant
> > b) judgmental
> > c) condemning
> >
> > The real answer to this is, "Well Duh!"
> >
> > When one believes in an absolute, and especially when that belief is 
> > in a God who has stated absolutely that he's absolute, there's not 
> > really any wiggle room there.
>
> But the crazy part is that there really is no good reason to believe 
> what you believe.  We know this because there are many other religions 
> with billions of people following them and they don't believe the same 
> as you do.  So you decided to be "absolute," but you don't have to 
> be.  Your absolutism doesn't follow from your belief in God, it is 
> your choice because you are choosing to believe in an absolutistic God.
>
> Mike
>
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