Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] job

[Chris Wolfe <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Sounds like you've got more of a personnel than a technical issue.  VMS 
has had SSH for several years now, and if your IT people haven't tried 
converting their users over to it (or haven't upgraded the OS in ages), 
they're asking to get cracked.  Maybe they already are and don't know 
it.  Complain to the IT managers.

VMS is definitely old and proprietary and could maybe be considered 
niche, but is hardly obsolete.  If it dies it will be because HP kills 
it off (they seem to be pushing HPUX now), or through a rapid decline of 
the Itanium processor line.  HP is the only major vendor who is behind it.

--Chris

Mike Miller wrote:
> On Thu, 22 Jun 2006, Rick wrote:
>
> > VMS is still very useful for the right tasks... =)
>
>
> I can see some value in it.  Certainly, it is a good operating system, 
> but I think the proprietary nature of it and the fact that it required 
> certain hardware probably killed it.  We still use it here, but it isn't 
> because I want it that way, it's because old people have been using it 
> since they were young people.  Eventually those old people will retire 
> or die and there will be more reason than ever to convert to Linux.
>
> My main complaint about VMS is that there is not much software available 
> for it.  Our IT people brag about how secure it is and they FUD some of 
> our faculty into avoiding Linux for security reasons.  But -- they allow 
> ordinary FTP and Telnet from any client.  How secure is that?  Why do 
> they do that?  They don't have the secure protocols installed on the VMS 
> machine -- no SSH.  That's because VMS is old and obsolete.
>
> Mike

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