MLUG: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Was the 2004 Election Stolen?
Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Was the 2004 Election Stolen?
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On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Vern Green wrote:

Again leave it to Mike to try and mislead,

I don't know why you would accuse me of that, Vern. I think what I wrote below was entirely correct and not misleading. It was a statement based on my reading of the two documents that I cited. Anyone can check if I was accurate. Imoprtantly, I don't think anything you wrote in the remainder of your reply indicated that I was incorrect.



here is an excerpt of what was originally said about weighting that has to be answered, and NO ONE, not even the honorable Robert Kennedy knows the formaula used to derive who is winning based on the exit polls, no one that is, EXCEPT the pollsters.

Why do you say that? The pollsters don't make raw data available? Where did you read that?



So how can anyone be sure of the accuracy of this exit poll? It has never been done before.

Right. They never had that large of a sample before. It was twice as large as in previous years -- so we should be doubly skeptical of the results? You really need a stat course, Vern.


Why is it that someone who knows nothing can come across as so confident in his opinions as you do? I think it is because you are an ideological extremist who wants to promote a political-religious agenda. You won't let facts get in your way. You don't seem to really think anything through. You just toss out one silly objection after another hoping that one of them will work for you. What a waste of time. Try being objective some time. I'm serious - it's a lot more fun and interesting to try to figure things out than to try to defend a position against all reason.


Even the smartest of people make mistakes.

Right, so we don't really know anything? Or are you saying that you might be wrong?



I want the election fraud stopped, no matter who performs it, but I am not prepared to say there is a concerted effort from either party to overthrow American elections. There could be those instances in some precincts and we have to deal with those issues as they come up. .

Apparently, they have come up.

Mike


On 6/2/06, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Vern Green wrote:

> Here you go, some information from the other side of the exit polling
> problem.
>
> http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_11/005178.php

That table is very misleading because when you go to the source...

http://www.tcf.org/publications/pow/nov17_2004.pdf

...you find that the numbers are "completely unweighted," which is
inappropriate and entirely different from the exit poll numbers in the
Bush/Kerry race.

Mike

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