Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Was the 2004 Election Stolen?

["Vern Green" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Again leave it to Mike to try and mislead, here is an excerpt of what
was originally said about weighting that has to be answered, and NO
ONE, not even the honorable Robert Kennedy knows the formaula used to
derive who is winning based on the exit polls, no one that is, EXCEPT
the pollsters.

So what is easier to believe, that we have all of these great many
precincts out there that have been tampered with? Or that the people
who came up with the questions, came up with the formula got it wrong?

Even in the article, if you read it, Kennedy eludes that this election
exit poll was different than others.

"In fact, the exit poll created for the 2004 election was designed to
be the most reliable voter survey in history. The six news
organizations -- running the ideological gamut from CBS to Fox News --
retained Edison Media Research and Mitofsky International,(22) whose
principal, Warren Mitofsky, pioneered the exit poll for CBS in
1967(23) and is widely credited with assuring the credibility of
Mexico's elections in 1994.(24) For its nationwide poll,
Edison/Mitofsky selected a random subsample of 12,219 voters(25) --
approximately six times larger than those normally used in national
polls(26) -- driving the margin of error down to approximately plus or
minus one percent.(27) "

So how can anyone be sure of the accuracy of this exit poll? It has
never been done before. Even the smartest of people make mistakes.
Instead of looking at a likely source of the problem, the poll itself,
Kennedy wants to somehow make it look like there is a large republican
conspiracy that stole the election.

I want the election fraud stopped, no matter who performs it, but I am
not prepared to say there is a concerted effort from either party to
overthrow American elections. There could be those instances in some
precincts and we have to deal with those issues as they come up.
.

On 6/2/06, Mike Miller <EMAIL:PROTECTED> wrote:
> On Fri, 2 Jun 2006, Vern Green wrote:
>
> > Here you go, some information from the other side of the exit polling
> > problem.
> >
> > http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2004_11/005178.php
>
> That table is very misleading because when you go to the source...
>
> http://www.tcf.org/publications/pow/nov17_2004.pdf
>
> ...you find that the numbers are "completely unweighted," which is
> inappropriate and entirely different from the exit poll numbers in the
> Bush/Kerry race.
>
> Mike
>
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