Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] Was the 2004 Election Stolen?

[Stephen Montgomery-Smith <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Mike Miller wrote:
> You have to check out this article by Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.  It was 
> just posted a few hours ago in the online Rolling Stone:
>
> http://taxa.epi.umn.edu/~mbmiller/vote_fraud_2004.html
>
> That single-page version of it is much more convenient than the original 
> for printing (the original is spread across four separate pages).  It 
> also has clickable links in the reference section, unlike the original.
>
> The information presented in that article makes me absolutely furious. 
> Our evidence-to-action ratio is embarassingly high.  How can the press 
> be so uninterested in such an important thing.  There should have been a 
> constant stream of articles about it ever since November 2004.  Election 
> fraud is a very, very serious crime and the punishment should be harsh.
>
> Mike

I would like to see both sides of the argument - how do those accused 
answer to these charges.  (I admit that I only read a small part of the 
article.)

A complaint I have heard from the right is that it is too easy for 
illegal immigrants to vote, and that democrats tend to resist attempts 
to crack down on this (for example, demanding identity checks at ballot 
boxes).

Perhaps part of the reason that people tend to ignore these complaints 
is that the complaints are perceived as very one sided and partisan.

Also, if the evidence really is as good as this article suggests, it 
does surprize me that the mainstream media haven't picked up on this. 
It does tend to make me doubt much of the truth of these stories, or 
think that they have been distorted, because if the evidence really is 
good, I just don't see the media leaving it alone.

One example - at the beginning of the article it says that exit polls 
suggested that Kerry should get a landslide victory.  But my sense at 
that time was that the nation was very divided, and that the election 
would be extremely close.  Thus, if exit polls at that time really did 
predict an overwhelming Kerry victory, I do have to say that my 
immediate reaction at that time would have been that the exit polls got 
it wrong, because they simply would not fit with my anecdotal sense of 
what was going on - and generally I trust anecdotal evidence a lot more 
than statistical evidence.

Generally I think it would be good to get more uniform standards in how 
ballots are counted, but the attempt to get it more accurate must be 
bipartisan.

Stephen

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