Re: FW: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [POLITICS] interesting article from a former Bush supporter

["Christian M. Cepel" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Christian M. Cepel wrote:
> Rick wrote:
> > Oddly enough, I believe they are currently experiencing just that. 
> > I've read articles that indicate there is currently a 3-1 male/female 
> > ratio, which has led to an increase in the abduction of female 
> > infants. The families are apparently kidnapping female babys in order 
> > to make sure their son has a bride...
> >
> > Rick
> Yes, but that's social, not genetic, which is where I made my mistake 
> in my first musings on the subject.  The ratio of male/female babies 
> born for pregnancies has not changed significantly.
>
> Apparently it's about 40k for us to adopt a little Chinese girl from 
> PRC, and about 8k of that is a not-under-the-table bribe to the 
> Chinese government whom you would think would be all to glad to get 
> some space cleared out of their orphanages.  Apparently the PRC Gov 
> will only deal with one adoption agency here in the US and to adopt 
> you have to go through their procedure and that procedure costs approx 
> 40k.
It appears that I was wrong about both the amount and the semantics.  
Here's a quote from:
http://china.adoption.com/chinese/china-adoption-factsheet,2.html

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After all interviews are completed, the actual adoption and completion 
of the contract, which includes making a fixed "donation" of around 
$3000-$4000 US dollars to the Children''s Welfare Institute, take place. 
This "donation" is NOT a bribe, but is required for the adoption and 
completion of contract for the institute. Prospective adoptive parents 
will be requested to sign an adoption agreement/contract with the 
welfare institute, then register the adoption at the provincial Civil 
Affairs Bureau, pay requisite Chinese fees and obtain a Chinese passport 
and exit permit for the child. The adoption process also includes 
signing an agreement with the person or institution putting up the child 
for adoption, registering in person with the Chinese Civil Affairs 
Bureau and carrying out the notarized procedures at the designated 
Chinese notarial office. When the notarial office in the child''s place 
of residence approves the adoption, that office issues a notarized 
certificate of adoption, a notarized birth certificate and either 
notarized death certificate (s) for the child''s biological parent(s) or 
a statement of abandonment from the welfare institute. The adoptive 
relationship goes into effect on the day of the notarization.
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Bullpatties.  It's a bribe, unless these officials are getting paid 
about $400 US an hour.

> *sigh*
>
>
> > Christian M. Cepel wrote:
> > > By this theory, wouldn't the Chinese have stopped producing female 
> > > babies? (Yes, I know it doesn't really follow, but it was the first 
> > > thing that popped into my head when I started thinking, "what are 
> > > some traits that could be so adverse to a parent (especially one 
> > > with post-postpartum hormones flowing) to cause the parent to be 
> > > less caring then they are naturally apt to be", and this one popped 
> > > into my head.)
>
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