RE: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [MLUG][Politics]The great immigration wash-out

["Hargus, Diana" <EMAIL:PROTECTED>]

Mike Miller wrote earlier:
* Subject: Re: [MLUG - DISCUSSION] [MLUG][Politics]The great 
* immigration wash-out
* 
* On Tue, 2 May 2006, Christian M. Cepel wrote:
* 
* > I find your argument to be a non-starter.  I'm sure it would cost a 
* > heck of a lot less to find and deport a family from a point 
* furthest 
* > from than it would to pay for their health-care, welfare, and 
* > schooling costs for a year... for two years... for three 
* years... You 
* > see, even if it's not immediate, those costs still win in the end 
* > because with the one scenario, there is an upfront expense 
* and then no 
* > more expense, and with the other, there is a large 
* constantly compounding expense.
* 
* Do you think that illegal immigrants are on welfare?  What 
* percentage?  I have some doubts.
* 

"A report that found that illegal immigrants in the United States cost
the federal government more than $10 billion a year -- a sum it
estimated would almost triple if they were given amnesty"  -
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A33783-2004Aug25.html

Educating the children of illegal immigrants is the largest cost,
estimated at $7.7 billion each year, according to the report. Medical
care for illegal immigrants and incarceration of those who have
committed crimes are the next two largest expenses measured in the
study, the author said.
Pro-immigrant groups and Latino researchers dispute the federation's
findings, calling them biased and incomplete. 
Jack Martin, who wrote the report, said Thursday that the $9 billion
figure does not include other expenses that are difficult to measure,
such as special English instruction, school lunch programs, and welfare
benefits for American workers displaced by illegal immigrant workers. -
http://www.nctimes.com/articles/2004/12/06/news/top_stories/19_56_5812_5
_04.txt

Gee, let's see - 9 billion and 10 billion would be around what? 19
billion? From one state and the federal government?

* Do you think that if you deport them, they won't come back?
* 

It sounds inhumane to "chip 'em and ship 'em" but I heard someone
suggest just that, I think it was on the radio, but not sure... 

* How much do you think it costs to find 12 million people and 
* move them to other countries?
* 

Less than housing them in prisons or paying their bills...  And still
researching it.

* My argument is a "non starter"?  You guys never cease to 
* amaze.  Are you getting this bullshit from Fox News or 
* something?  How can you think you are making sense?
* 

It isn't necessarily a non-starter, just not reasoned out.  But both
sides amuse me...  hehe

* Mike
* 

Diana 
 
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